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State of the testing 1posted by Record Blog 2009-05-18 at 19:09
State of the testing
The second week of beta testing has just begun and we're trying to get through all the bug reports we got during the weekend. We released the second beta version last Thursday and have been able to close a lot of cases since then. Each time we release a new beta, we add a new and hungry group of users to the beta testing.
It's great fun to see so many people interested in testing. I wish we could let everybody join but at the moment we can only let in a fraction to be able to respond to the active testers.
To encourage bug hunting we are giving out online licenses to the testers who are first to report a new bug. All testers begin with Record in Demo Mode that lets you use the application fully, only you can't open documents. Once you are awarded with an online license you can run Record with Internet Verification, which means you can open your saved documents and use the application unrestricted.
That's all for now. I gotta go back to hunting bugs but stay tuned for more updates on our progress and a big thanks to all the testers who have helped us so far!
Comment posted by: aquil - 2009-05-18 19:20
Oh, sounds nice. Cant wait to get part of this :)
Comment posted by: Jescoolman - 2009-05-18 23:13
Thanks for the update. Never thought I would WANT to find bugs. Finding them won't be easy in a p-heads product.
Comment posted by: mcatalao - 2009-05-19 11:21
It's a beta. You know why it's called beta?
Because you "Beta" catch them now!
Comment posted by: J24Keys - 2009-05-19 21:37
I know its early, but I would love to see Record as a MASTER REWIRE HOST!!!...so I could use Ableton as a slave.
Comment posted by: ag858 - 2009-05-19 23:07
A great way to incentivise us beta testers. The internet verification option is a good way for Props to control the licenses. If someone gets a cracked and torrented version of the Record and they try to use it, bingo, Propellerhead have their IP address logged! Very well thought out.
Comment posted by: 4ndrw - 2009-05-20 08:56
Record sounds like it will be really great.
i love the concept
audio recording/ audio tracks
the new mixer (also in its own window by the looks)
the multi track export feature
the line6 amp modelling... looks fun.. cant wait to try on drums/synths
tho a midi output module or making this a rewire master (so i could find a lightweight slave midi sequencer to run inside reason)
would be great for me, as i love the ease of use of the Reason sequencer and would love to apply it to everything.
i have some hardware synths that i do enjoy using
but dislike most of the DAWs i've tried.
anyways, there are ways around this
and for me, this is huge
i hope the beta test goes well :)
Comment posted by: Binke - 2009-05-20 15:18
Interesting way of doing this. I will check my e-mail 3 times a day because I would love to check out this new baby of yours ;)
I do feel like 4ndrw.. I've got some hardware synths and the only software I'm really comfortable with is reason.
Sending midi to my synths directly from reason would make me the happiest man alive!
But on the other hand.. now i just have to be better at live preformance and record it with this tool of yours!
Now I have to check my mail so take care! :)
Comment posted by: clemensvill - 2009-05-20 16:55
Congratulations for You Idea,
in the last time I often used my Fostex D-108 and Mixer for Band-Recording because its simple to use and I have a fast overview. Cubase Studio (which i own) take too much resources from me until i'm able to record. I would like to test Record with my Band as Digital Mixer and Recorder.
I' very interested.
Comment posted by: dubd - 2009-05-20 20:46
seriously I am shooked! wow prop recordind waves and applying midi effects from reason to record! two thumbs up!!!
My only concern is, will I be able to use vst's? I have a DSP from universal audio...
If not, I don't think I will let a 2000$ piece of mastering equipement for record! I will buy it cause it's cheap for me, I'm a reason owner... but will I use it or leave it on the shelf!!!! Please propellerheads make the vst possible in your record soft if it's not already done!
there is no info about that! usually you guys are good at working with other soft like rewire! how could this be possible havin no vst in record?
Comment posted by: jaedeal - 2009-05-20 21:34
I'm an avid Propellerhead user and endorsee . . . extremely excited about Record and how it will impact the recording music industry in America !
Thanks for all you do and with your consideration I look forward to beta-testing Record in the near future !
Comment posted by: Tomg - 2009-05-20 23:59
Love the new direction!!!
I am not entirely familiar with every nock and cranny of Record. But a couple of things I hope will be there is a way edit waveforms for one(think creating rex files, or nnxt source material), and doing live loops within a track during live performances.
Comment posted by: SShoelace - 2009-05-21 00:58
Being a software tester and having attended the Producers Conference where we were all told "you will be part of the Beta test for attending this conference" Im a little pissed about being misled. You should not have made it sound as if we were all in if in fact there were a limited # of testers. You probably wouldn't want to see me break this software anyway..I understand.
Comment posted by: doinky - 2009-05-21 01:13
I'd hate to be in the late group of betatesters where bugs get really hard to find and can't contribute let alone activate the open command.
Comment posted by: Retailzip - 2009-05-21 01:18
You guys need to let me buy Record even while it's in beta then distribute a update when it is final.
I tried this at a friends studio and was able to do the best creative session I ever had in over 20 years of making music.
The SSL model smokes Waves SSL plugin and the workflow is pure genius. I WILL PAY NOW!
Comment posted by: marcelvdg - 2009-05-21 07:30
Everybody keeps asking for extra features - especially MIDI out and loading plugins (VSTS) - but while MIDI out might be able to be implemented smoothly, VST's are just a bad idea.
If you want to use VSTs, then record in record and it looks like it has a fantastic stem export option for you to go and mix elsewhere, but the whole beauty of Reason is that it stands alone and is a locked system. This allow Propellerhead to make it super efficient and have more of the features you want, and less that slow you down - its not trying to everything to everyone. Just one thing really cool.
I would not be interested if I discovered it had every Cubase feature or whatever.
Comment posted by: 4ndrw - 2009-05-21 09:00
i agree with marcelvdg
if it turned into cubase i wouldnt like it.
i can understand the reason why they arent including VSTs
just to give one of the many reasons..
automation in Reason for example is so streamlined and great because it only has to work with their built in units, and not try to be compatible with every softsynth or effect under the sun.
also reason/record being self contained is great. i can send a file to a friend to work on, or work on a track in another computer easily, knowing all the instruments/samples/fx will just work.
i cant do that with cubase or other DAWs, unless the other computer happens to have all of the same plugins installed and working.
i still wish it could do midi out, or be a rewire host..
but i can understand why this isnt the case.
it would require not just note sending but controlling all sorts of raw midi data: assigning midi outputs to instruments, CC commands, NRPN, Sysex, RPN messages, program assignments blah blah
which would require making the sequencer alot more complicated
also it would no longer "just work"
or be portable.
i still wish it could output notes, even if i had to immediately commit it to audio
to avoid playing with another DAW... just for workflow
but i can see why they havnt done this.
Comment posted by: 4ndrw - 2009-05-21 09:09
will record be able to directly receive audio when its in slave mode?
anyone recommend a simple, fast to use (preferably free) rewire host that handles external midi (VSTs would be bonus?)
Comment posted by: Tomg - 2009-05-21 15:59
Regardless of what point of view you have.
Midi out is such a hugely embedded thing in music production, that not having it seems a bit backwards too me in light of the launch of Record.
It might not be critical to some, but for anyone with even a little bit of outboard gear, it forces those to consider some rewire add on product that does midi out. And those are generally not that cheap.
I believe one solution is for Propellerheads to make a little midi out box for the rack, like the splitter/merger. This way they keep the module paradigm, and also make it highly useful.
Comment posted by: jahumaster - 2009-05-21 16:01
You know what?
I am in love with the Reason interface, and there is only two things, i was missing.
1. Record Audio Track,
2. Show,Print NOTATION after sequencing.
What i have seen till now is excellent in RECORD.
Thanks for what you are doing.
PS. I would like to became beta tester. i am so HOT.
Comment posted by: marcelvdg - 2009-05-21 17:58
The midi module idea works for me, i must say - eliminate the automation issue highlighted too...
(also love to beta test - I'm good at making things crash - software is practically allergic to me ;) )
Comment posted by: LaVar10 - 2009-05-21 20:47
I'm can't wait to further my knowledge on Reason with Record........... Houston Tx!!!!!!!!!!! Your boy well come a live by 2010.
Comment posted by: LaVar10 - 2009-05-21 20:52
I can't wait to further my knowledge on Reason with Record........... Houston Tx!!!!!!!!!!! Your boy well come a live by 2010.
Where can I go for short cuttttttttts? I'm taking to long laying out my tracks. LJohn13@tigers.lsu.edu
Comment posted by: okang - 2009-05-22 16:44
one thing i always loved about reason it makes you feel like your in a real studio i must say with the ssl model mixer in record this is more than big i never had reason for myself always used it at my friends studio but now am sold on the whole propellerhead movement this is what Ive been waiting for some people tend to forget what these guys have done for the music industry were now the so called big guns have incorporate in there software i also hear people talking about vst's if we really do take time out and listen and be creative we would know that reason can do the same work the vst's do look at the rv7000 for instance the amount of juice you can squeeze out of this baby ain't funny but then again if we don't take time out to learn we will never know
Comment posted by: Tomg - 2009-05-22 17:46
Many so called creative types doesn't really want to learn how, they like the idea of the magic button that make everything ok. And as such in perpetual search of the tool that give them that perceived ability.
Anyway, to me the toolset have been doing me a great service in that it is so tangible, direct and iteratively driven.
Comment posted by: okang - 2009-05-22 22:26
ok by a struck of luck i got my hands on the software installed it of the bat it sounds fantastic right now am not even sure if to look for bugs or start recording stuff
Comment posted by: okang - 2009-05-22 23:22
ok the routing in this baby is crazy am at my friends house and i used one the line six bass amp effect with the subtracter and a unison then put that through thor lol man am in love already they got my money gonna go try some audio recording now
Comment posted by: okang - 2009-05-23 01:35
ok am back again first off this is what i got to say to hell with vst's this thing is so simple yet so effective
Comment posted by: stylin - 2009-05-24 05:11
Is it possible that there will be a Reason device standard so vendors like melodyne can create a Rack component that will work within Record?
Would something like that be in the future plans?
Comment posted by: 4ndrw - 2009-05-24 05:34
heh, or if they're now open to collaborating with other companies for devices (eg. line6)
would they be able to collaborate with someone like melodyne to do a pitch correction device?
that could be cool..
Comment posted by: jymbeam - 2009-05-24 06:40
my question is i am so ready to purchase pro-tools m powered. are we going to have audio interface problems with this? are there going to be more programs through REASON that can be incorporated like transfusion in pro-tools. i need to know these types of things now because i am about two weeks out from getting and whole bunch of new studio gear for my home studio. i have read everything in these forums and just not enough information to feel comfy with. what type of interface does it prefer to work with, any other REASON related programs coming out to compete with Pro-tools, and i guess im a reason owner, but i would like to know after the Thor, the Malstrom, and the Subtractor will there be any more synth's Reason related in the works with out having to wait two years for Reason 5.0.
Comment posted by: hnelson - 2009-05-27 21:35
i hope to be added as a beta tester soon so that i can be a bonafied bug hunter! i've been jonesin to get my hands on record. :)
Comment posted by: matias - 2009-05-28 22:06
i'm really exited with this software. there is too many stuff to discovery wet... there is a place for vst's? could be a rewire host (it's almost an obligation)? how deep could be the audio sequencer and editor possibilites? and thar master section always minimized on the rack? :P i'm almost praying to be choosen. i'm waiting.. if not like a tester, will bee like a buyer e setemper 9th :) keep the good work suprise your followers!
Comment posted by: lameck - 2009-06-27 21:09
Excellent work Prop Heads. I've loved reason so much right from ver 1. Record is simply revolutionary. Its gonna be a super-power of all music productions, the mother of all virtual studios for many years to come,I tell you. I can't wait to lay my hands on it-I'll buy it.
Comment posted by: DrDeep - 2009-07-06 23:39
PC User Unite!!!
I've been trying to get Record to Run on a PC. I tried it on a AMD 3.00mhz 64 bit single core w/2 GB Ram & a 2.28 mhz Dual Core w/2 GB ram, both running XP SP3 and neither machine could play any demo songs.
I also recorded a single mix with 1 Thor track and 1 DrRex track in Reason 4.0,added 1 lead vocal and 2 background tracks,started to add some effects on the vocals,and the machine locked up!!
Can someone please help me figure out what's going wrong?
Don't leave us PC user behind!!
Comment posted by: wizardry - 2009-07-15 00:42
ok!! first of i would like to thanx propellerhead for letting me test out record!!!
well so far so good!! still getting use to the layout!!
but i like how the work flow is!! and i llove the fact im not working in this little box! glad to see the windo is larger!
the bug i found!! is i notice when i hooked up my mpd24
sometime it doesnt read it!! it happen in reason 4 too!
then i have to shut it down and restart just so it can read my mdp controller or keyboard!!
i drag the remote files into reason folder and record folder but at times it works then at times it doesnt!!
but beside that minor bug things look good in record!!
get back in a few days!!
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