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outbackyak 2010-11-30 11:34

Who else thinks the Props Forum layout/navigation sucks?
 
A the title says: I think that the Forum layout and navigation system is awful.

I love Reason/ Record; it's incredibly user-friendly, the documentation that comes with it is excellent; it does everything I need in audio production (I've been using music software since 1983, and now I only use Reason 5/Record 1.5, except in the rarest of circumstances where I need ReWire capability) .

However, sometimes I need more information - a particular technique, specific help with particular features of the devices, creative methods and patching help. That sort of thing.

I hate how badly-implemented this forum is. It's ridiculously hard to find the information I need. You may have noticed that I've only made 4 posts prior to this one - and that's because the forum is so badly organised.

I'm used to php forums - click on a topic and every answer to the original post is there, in order, and instantly available. I can easily glance at a post, realise it isn't relevant to my interests, and move on to the next one. I can even elect to jump in 10 pages into the topic, if I'm only interested in the most recent answers. Easy, immediate, and easily search-able.

The Props forum reminds me of 90s bulletin boards - and I'm not into nostalgia. I have to click on the post; then click on the next post, then the next. Meanwhile, someone has responded to an earlier post; that means there is now a separate sub-thread, which I can choose to follow, but if I want to go on with the original thread I have to go back up the line. It's so slow! And so confusing!

And there is no indication of how many responses there are in each individual sub-thread, so you don't even know if the sub-thread is worth pursuing. And I can't easily tell if the post in a particular sub-thread comes before or after another post in a different sub-thread. Yes, this matters!

And only 4 forum categories? General; Feature Suggestions; Music; User. This is insane. There should be sub-forums under each category. For example:

Propellerhead has four basic product streams: Reason, Record, Recycle, and Refills. As a bare minimum, each Forum category should have a sub-forum for each product stream. If I'm searching for information on Reason feature suggestions, I don't want to plough my way through all the other products.

Even better: each product stream should have sub-forums that deal with the product's particular features and devices . I'd like to be able to ask questions about Neptune, knowing that the people who are browsing the Neptune sub-forum are probably either expert in its use, or as baffled as me. Instead, it will get buried in amongst all the other questions about everything else.

Nor can you create a poll - yep, I wanted to create this thread as a poll along the lines of:

{option 1} I like the current forum format - don't change a thing!
{option 2} I would prefer a php style forum format - change it now!
{option 3} Fish!

Can't be done. Why not? Every other forum I belong to (and I do mean every forum) lets me do this.

Are you with me on this? Would you prefer a php style forum, with sub-forums?

Cheers!

deepndark 2010-11-30 11:42

I don't think this at all - it's very easy to use. I'd like to have more emoticons tho - the ones we have are boring.
You gotta understand that Props want to use this forum because it was easy for them to convert from the old forum - yes there was even worce one before. Propably they have coded some extras into this one like the user icons. Well I wouldn't mind if they'd add more forums tho.

eric 2010-11-30 11:48

"Who else thinks the Props Forum layout/navigation sucks?"

I don't. :)

LudvigC 2010-11-30 12:05

Hi,

I don't really recognize the behavior you're describing. What "Thread Display Mode" do you use? (Forum Settings / Edit Options)

"I have to click on the post; then click on the next post, then the next."

Do you mean you have to click on posts within a thread? Set Thread Display to "Linear - Oldest First"; this shows all posts within a thread in order. To go to another thread you either return to the forum list and click another thread, or use the "Previous/Next Thread" links at the bottom of the page.

/ LudvigC

n0ahg 2010-11-30 12:36

Agreed, no probs here with Display Mode set to Linear

outbackyak 2010-11-30 12:44

Hey, LudvigC - that's a great improvement! I never even saw the Forum Settings Menu. Thanks for your help. Can anybody else make suggestions as to how I could make my Props Forum experience more like my usual php browsing experience?

Nevertheless, I still think that the Props Forum needs an update, specifically in the area of extra sub-forums. Makes it more user-friendly (always a good thing).

Regards, Alec

outbackyak 2010-11-30 13:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by pirnikas (Post 819967)
I don't think this at all - it's very easy to use. I'd like to have more emoticons tho - the ones we have are boring.
You gotta understand that Props want to use this forum because it was easy for them to convert from the old forum - yes there was even worce one before. Propably they have coded some extras into this one like the user icons. Well I wouldn't mind if they'd add more forums tho.

Glad to see that you would like more sub-forums. I can't say I agree that it's very easy to use, though. I thought I was a fairly sophisticated forum user (hey, I can even post YouTube in my other forums LOL), but this one has me beat.

So - this is an update of an earlier forum, right? I wouldn't know since I've only been using Reason/Record since Version 4/1.0. This is the only forum that I use that uses this system. (For reference, the other forums I regularly post on are: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/ ; http://www.talkbass.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=108 ; http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/index.php for music. I also post a lot on kayak fishing forums like http://www.akff.net/forum/ ; http://www.forum.yakfishwest.com/index.php ; and I used to post a lot on the Borderlands Forum http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Borderlands_Wiki ) Naturally there are others, but these are my main time-wasters.

It's that "update of an earlier forum" you mentioned that makes me think I was right in feeling like this was a "return to the 90s" experience. Time for an update to the '10s, don't you think? "Even worse one before?????" I shudder to think!

Cheers!

Grumbleweed 2010-11-30 13:33

This forum is a pleasure to use when compared to the Cakewalk one I also post on. If you try to do a quote it wraps up your reply in the quote and completely messes up what you tried to do.
As previously mentioned this one is much better than the old one so you should try and adapt :D.

Grum.

n0ahg 2010-11-30 14:36

Only thing I'd wish was less bloody javascript. THis is the main reason I use Linear, the thread and hybrid view don't seem to like mobile phones. Also the search pop up is broken on phones, need to go to advanced search to use the real html form to be able to search.

Truhse 2010-11-30 15:03

I agree. I never liked the layout of these forums too. :)


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