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djbriang 2011-09-19 14:31

Why can't people just have music making as their hobby like video games are ?????
 
"A hobby is a regular activity or interest that is undertaken for pleasure, typically done during one's leisure time"

Hobby's generally need no monetary or other justification other than just "personal enjoyment" except for when it comes to making music and posting online

Why is that?


I get that there is a video game industry that people make money on and yet nobody goes around asking the 12 hour a day (on a day off) hobby video game player about pursuing a career in playing video games so why is it different for the person that would rather spend that time making music for no other reason than having fun and posting online to share with friends/family



Think about it if somebody says "man I spent $500 on a new game console/game then my whole weekend playing "insert video game title" " and it was fun.

nobody is gonna ask if theif the person is persuing a career in video game play yet if a person spends the $500 on an instrument or tool and the time making music it is looked upon as if the person is wasting time/money unless pursuing music business

making music is fun video games are fun both can be careers or hobby's yet only music makers ever get the pressure to justify a purchase or time spent based on monetary gain or pursuing a career with it

adfielding 2011-09-19 14:41

I never experienced that when I started out writing music... but, then again, I started out using free software and my dad's guitar so there wasn't much of a financial investment there!

djbriang 2011-09-19 14:53

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Originally Posted by adfielding (Post 923617)
I never experienced that when I started out writing music... but, then again, I started out using free software and my dad's guitar so there wasn't much of a financial investment there!


Music makers get the questions like "Why don't you send that "track" to so & so ?" or "why don't you do this or that.. always something relating to turning music stuff into a job.

I'm not knocking those that do pursue music stuff as a hobby and a career or whatever but wish people could just have the hobby too without hassles

It's like people don't ask every pretty girl that likes sex to pursue a career in porn movies

Grumbleweed 2011-09-19 14:56

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Originally Posted by djbriang (Post 923624)
It's like people don't ask every pretty girl that likes sex to pursue a career in porn movies

They don't? Damn, that explains a lot of cheek pain.

Grum.

LAIDBACK 2011-09-19 15:07

Probably cause music makers are creative and create something that can be or cant be valuable or that will stay forever.
Gamers on another side are just wankers in the creative domain, they enjoy and have fun (thing that is good to have in life also) but after their games whats left?
nothing except a level saved or a new weapon acquired.
Gamers are enjoyement seekers, musicians even hobbyists are enjoyement seekers but creators at the same time.

MAV42 2011-09-19 15:38

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Originally Posted by LAIDBACK (Post 923627)
Probably cause music makers are creative and create something that can be or cant be valuable or that will stay forever.
Gamers on another side are just wankers in the creative domain, they enjoy and have fun (thing that is good to have in life also) but after their games whats left?
nothing except a level saved or a new weapon acquired.
Gamers are enjoyement seekers, musicians even hobbyists are enjoyement seekers but creators at the same time.

Very true... I see no similarity between gaming and writing music. I know several people who waste most of there lives playing Call Of Duty..LOL seriously every evening in the imaginary virtual world blowing each others balls off..
I actually try to really keep in check the amount of time i'm actually looking at a computer screen because i think it can take away a little bit of the magic of writing a good track.. So sitting with a hardware keyboard and a writing pad for a few lyrics or arrangement ideas can be very inspirational, then return to sofware to lay some ideas out. I don't make much money out of music but i've had a few tracks played at clubs and on a few radio stations and its made all those hours of effort really worth it for me.. ;-)

illCarl 2011-09-19 15:54

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Originally Posted by LAIDBACK (Post 923627)
Probably cause music makers are creative and create something that can be or cant be valuable or that will stay forever.
Gamers on another side are just wankers in the creative domain, they enjoy and have fun (thing that is good to have in life also) but after their games whats left?
nothing except a level saved or a new weapon acquired.
Gamers are enjoyement seekers, musicians even hobbyists are enjoyement seekers but creators at the same time.


I kinda agree.. but then again, following this logic, every non-musician who listens to any type of music (i.e. about every single person on this planet) is a w****r and just an enjoyement seeker :)

so you're saying every non - musician is a w****r? :)

djbriang 2011-09-19 16:03

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Originally Posted by MAV42 (Post 923633)
I know several people who waste most of there lives playing Call Of Duty..LOL seriously every evening in the imaginary virtual world blowing each others balls off..

Totally for fun as far off from "work" as they can get"

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAV42 (Post 923633)
I don't make much money out of music but i've had a few tracks played at clubs and on a few radio stations and its made all those hours of effort really worth it for me.. ;-)


So are your saying thet that all the hours you spend making music would not really be worth it without getting club and radio play? goes back to the point of 1st thread post only coming from within a music maker rather than from a non music maker

MAV42 2011-09-19 17:52

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Originally Posted by djbriang (Post 923642)
Totally for fun as far off from "work" as they can get"




So are your saying thet that all the hours you spend making music would not really be worth it without getting club and radio play? goes back to the point of 1st thread post only coming from within a music maker rather than from a non music maker

I'd still do music if i wasn't posting my tracks or not getting any feedback.. But it is nice to get a bit of feedback, your doing something creative so it goes with the territory. I completely understand why people do gaming to kill a bit of time but i'd rather be doing something a bit more creative with a result.. We're all differant, i wasn't doing music id probably do a bit of Salsa dancing instead..LOL

FrankieFiveFingers 2011-09-19 18:43

video GAME song WRITING/ record PRODUCING.

people the world over have music as a hobbie, many doctors, tradesmen and engineers in all kinds of fields play piano , guitar or are some form of instrumentalist. some even produce full tracks.

it can work the other way too with computer games, many other doctors, engineers and tradesmen from all walks of life may choose to just blast out there free time playing Amiga emulator etc etc

:)


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