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something 2012-10-15 16:07

[KONG] Add Effects to Particular PAD only?
 
Does anyone know if there is a way to add for instance a Pulveriser to a single pad only, which does not affect other pads?

Having the reDrum triggering the Kong.

devilfish 2012-10-15 16:38

use the single-output of the respective pad?

ShelLuser 2012-10-15 17:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by something (Post 1156078)
Does anyone know if there is a way to add for instance a Pulveriser to a single pad only, which does not affect other pads?

Having the reDrum triggering the Kong.

There are a few options here...

If its only about the Pulveriser you can set it up as a send effect. Flip the rack, click "show drum & FX" and then use the breakout jacks to hookup the Pulveriser. Click the pad which audio you want to sent to Pulveriser, then find the "Send" section in the pads, well, mixer section I suppose.

Raise the "Bus FX" dial and the audio will be send through the Kong.

This doesn't effect other pads, as long as you don't raise their Bus FX as well (obviously).

Another option...

Hookup the Pulveriser to one of the Kong's Aux send outs (at the lower left corner of the main screen). However, you'll have to send the output of Pulveriser either directly into a mix channel or, also possible, back in Kongs audio input. Then you can use the Aux 1 or 2 dials.

Another option...

Click the pad (make sure programming section is visible), find "Drum output" at the bottom; change this to a different output. 3/4 for example. Connect 3/4 output to Pulveriser and connect Pulversiser... Well, see above.


So bottom line; plenty of options available to play with.

QVprod 2012-10-15 18:51

Assigning your pads to individual outputs and connecting them to mix channels is your best bet to use pulveriser as an insert.

something 2012-10-15 18:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShelLuser (Post 1156145)
There are a few options here...

If its only about the Pulveriser you can set it up as a send effect. Flip the rack, click "show drum & FX" and then use the breakout jacks to hookup the Pulveriser. Click the pad which audio you want to sent to Pulveriser, then find the "Send" section in the pads, well, mixer section I suppose.

Raise the "Bus FX" dial and the audio will be send through the Kong.

This doesn't effect other pads, as long as you don't raise their Bus FX as well (obviously).

Another option...

Hookup the Pulveriser to one of the Kong's Aux send outs (at the lower left corner of the main screen). However, you'll have to send the output of Pulveriser either directly into a mix channel or, also possible, back in Kongs audio input. Then you can use the Aux 1 or 2 dials.

Another option...

Click the pad (make sure programming section is visible), find "Drum output" at the bottom; change this to a different output. 3/4 for example. Connect 3/4 output to Pulveriser and connect Pulversiser... Well, see above.


So bottom line; plenty of options available to play with.


After messing around for a while i was able to get the last option to work.

http://i.imgur.com/nZAvG.jpg

Thanks for the help :)

I see cabling and routing has a learning curve and requires audio knowledge (Bus FX, what the heck is that? LOL).
If someone knows a good and easy to understand tutorial on this then i would be happy to know.


EDIT:

The only issue you get with the example above is that you can only do this with 1 pad, as there is only 1 audio input (L+R) on the back of Kong.

So i guess creating channels for each pad is the only way to fix this?

something 2012-10-15 18:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by devilfish (Post 1156097)
use the single-output of the respective pad?

Not sure how you mean that?

something 2012-10-15 18:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by QVprod (Post 1156206)
Assigning your pads to individual outputs and connecting them to mix channels is your best bet to use pulveriser as an insert.

You mean creating audio tracks for each pad?
I guess that requires some advanced knowledge of routing?

ShelLuser 2012-10-15 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by something (Post 1156207)
The only issue you get with the example above is that you can only do this with 1 pad, as there is only 1 audio input (L+R) on the back of Kong.

That is why the Propellerheads invented the Spider audio splitter/merger.

Lemme rig something up, and an example...

My first example; using the break-out:

http://catslair.org/files/Kong_pulv1-back.jpg

You can trigger this in the "mixer" section, but I guess I'm using bad names. Here's what I meant:

http://catslair.org/files/Kong_pulv1-front.jpg

If you raise the 'Bus FX' knob then that single pad will be using the Pulveriser. You can use this for multiple pads because, well, its a mere send effect after all.

Now to solve your problem with the "one audio input to rule them all" :D

http://catslair.org/files/Kong_spider.jpg

You can find the spider devices under the Utilities section. As you can see here I can now easily hookup 4 different sound sources onto 1 audio input.

Hope this helps!

QVprod 2012-10-15 21:32

Not at all, fairly basic routing actually, and not audio tracks but mix channels. The difference is no tracks in the sequencer. Your drums would still be controlled by kong's sequencer channel. There are 8 stereo outs (16 mono) on kong (L/R, 3-4, 4-6...etc...). In the drum module section, on the bottom there's something that says drum output. by default it's assigned to master fx. you can assign that to any kong output you wish. Then wire that output into the input of a mix channel.
Do it this way for each of your pads and you have access to use any # of fx on any pad without affecting the other pads

something 2012-10-16 14:45

@ShelLuser Thanks!

I couldn't quote your post because of a Propellerhead forum error (see video).
I quoted your 3 images but it said i'm using 6 images.
Weirdo...



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