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dlorre 2012-10-19 13:31

Using Reason samples in smartphone software?
 
Hello, my name is Dominique, I'm guitarist and I'm developping a smartphone app that will play music scales. I can sample my own guitars but I would like to also play piano and bass sounds. Since I have purchased a license of Reason Essentials I was wondering if it is okay to use Reason sounds for that purpose ?

Thanks in advance

ryszard 2012-10-19 13:39

Any sounds you make with Reason are fully licensed for your use. There are some third-party refills which place some conditions on use, but not Reason itself.

dlorre 2012-10-19 14:04

Thank you, I was unsure if the license was only for composed music or not.

OMOMs 2012-10-19 17:08

Read the EULA carefully!
I believe its strictly forbidden to sell Propellerheads samples! even more so without paying credit to them.
Your best bet would be to contact propellerheads directly using the support form. This is a topic you shouldn't take lightly because it's about copyright infringement, which can get pretty uncomfortable...
so basically don't rely on just users, but talk to the people directly. who knows, if they like your idea, they might cooperate or even support you.
cheers
fredhoven

Dave909 2012-10-19 17:11

Yeah i'm pretty sure this isn't allowed just like that. It would involve licensing the samples as you will use them dry and direct (not in the context of a song).

dlorre 2012-10-19 17:20

Thanks for your insight. I have been searching all day for the EULA but couldn't find it anywhere.

I will not use dry samples because the smartphone audio is very clumsy so I need to tailor them to my needs.

However if it is subject to cause any trouble I rather give up, it's easier for me to rent a piano and a bass and sample them myself.

Thanks.

Dave909 2012-10-19 17:23

Yeah that would be the safest and cheapest route i think :)

OMOMs 2012-10-19 20:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlorre (Post 1159600)
Thanks for your insight. I have been searching all day for the EULA but couldn't find it anywhere.

I will not use dry samples because the smartphone audio is very clumsy so I need to tailor them to my needs.

However if it is subject to cause any trouble I rather give up, it's easier for me to rent a piano and a bass and sample them myself.

Thanks.

dude!
don't give up on it before you asked! They might just support you with it!
here's the EULA
https://www.propellerheads.se/agreements/
I mean since Props have hired iOS developers, they might be interested in your approach.
as far as I recall they are pretty open minded about stuff. Don't make the legal shit stop you fulfilling your dreams!

pushedbutton 2012-10-19 20:30

Regardless of the legal mumbo jumbo you just have to ask yourself 'If I spent the time recording these samples and making these patches, would I be happy if someone did X to them.'
if X is ripping them off, then no, it's not ok.
if X is creating original content, then that's what the FSB is for.
If it's a grey area it would be nice to at least credit the props and run it by them.
Cloning the FSB is definitely a no no.

dlorre 2012-10-19 20:53

Thanks for the link and encouragements. If I was making some music composing software I wouldn't even ask but this one is for playing scales such as pentatonic or bebop so I don't see any harm here.

From what I see in the EULA it's forbidden explicitly without permission:

Quote:

The sound samples and musical examples connected to the Software may NOT be reformatted, mixed, filtered, re-synthesized, or otherwise edited or altered for use in any kind of commercial sampling product/package or software- this is strictly prohibited without the express written consent of Propellerhead Software.
That's fine with me, and no I'm not giving up, I just don't want any kind of trouble. I was just being lazy and I really like the piano and bass sounds here :)

I guess if I make sounds with Subtractor it would be safe to use them, because that won't be samples, yes?


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