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omshanti20 2012-11-15 20:43

Tape emulation: RE vs Scream vs VST
 
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rogerlevy 2012-11-15 20:51

I wouldn't mind getting a good vintage tape emulation RE, but the Scream4 one isn't too shabby. The trick is to drive up the damage and the compression knob, and stack Scream's with different Tape settings to make the effect more prominent. Also a little bass and treble bump on one of them will make it fatter.

Shame they took out the phase invert fix. I hate having to deal with that.

omshanti20 2012-11-15 21:42

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JensenTNI 2012-11-16 12:06

I would rather like to see a new bad-ass full-on sound destruction unit that has the option for a decent tape emulation, but that of course is only my personal selfish wish :D

normen 2012-11-16 12:33

Tape has qualities of a multiband compressor, its not just distortion and normal compression. Actually theres only one or two emulations that really get it right. The "tape" simulation in Scream and other distortion units is nice for the distortion part and some general allband-compression but it doesn't exhibit the same multiband compression characteristics as real tape or the Uaudio tape sims.

Hotmitts 2012-11-16 13:34

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Originally Posted by rogerlevy (Post 1178575)
I wouldn't mind getting a good vintage tape emulation RE, but the Scream4 one isn't too shabby. The trick is to drive up the damage and the compression knob, and stack Scream's with different Tape settings to make the effect more prominent. Also a little bass and treble bump on one of them will make it fatter.

Shame they took out the phase invert fix. I hate having to deal with that.

Thanks for the tip. Have to say I don't fully understand the phase invert thing. I did read that the half-rack phaser inverts a phase, making a 'colder' sound, so the trick is to add another phaser to 'warm' it back up. Is it the same with Scream ?

omshanti20 2012-11-16 15:23

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JakTheStripper 2012-11-17 00:41

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Originally Posted by omshanti20 (Post 1179090)
I read in SoundOnSound magazine that Scream inverts the phase of the signal and the workaround is to use 2 Screams with one in bypass mode...this double inversion puts the signal back in correct phase (although offset by 1 cycle).

I've heard the same, and ran into issues while using a scream while parallel processing. I usually invert the phase with a Thor.

It seems like a rather blaring bug to me. One that could have easily been addressed in version 4, 5, or 6.


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