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MAGNET001 2012-11-17 03:52

Computer too slow error - new computer or solid state HD ???
 
I have a mid-2009 Macbook Pro laptop with 2.53 GHz Core 2 Duo processor. I'm running Lion OSX 10.7.5, I have 4 GB RAM, and a 320 GB hard drive. I don't know the speed of the hard drive - probably 5400 or 7200. I'm running Reason 6.5.

My computer just cannot play my songs. They are so effect intensive that half of them give my computer a hard time and it will stop playing the song. I have Reason set to use 95% of computer resources. I have a memory freer program and keep all available memory free that I can. I minimize all synth modules and effect processors that I'm not using.

I'm now using the Yoko Unfiltered Audio rack extension, along with the Softube FET Compressor and Ozone Maximizer. These three have really pushed it over the edge. The only thing that I can do is export the song as a WAV or AIFF and start a new project, and try to edit/master it there.

I'm guessing the hard drive cannot spin fast enough to load the samples on the fly, as well and handle the gobs of effects that I'm using. Some people say upgrading to 8GB RAM from the 4 GB that I have will help. Some say it won't do much. One person said I should get an external solid state HD since it doesn't rely on moving parts. But then I'd have to use USB 2.0 or firewire to connect it - and would that negate the fact that I'm trying to use the faster hard drive?

Finally, if it's my 2.5 core 2 duo processor, would I be best off getting an I5 dual core or quad core Mac Pro? I'd like to not go this route right now because I've been saving for an engagement ring.

Suggestions?

EnochLight 2012-11-17 04:06

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Originally Posted by MAGNET001 (Post 1179624)
I have a mid-2009 Macbook Pro laptop with 2.53 GHz Core 2 Duo processor. I'm running Lion OSX 10.7.5, I have 4 GB RAM, and a 320 GB hard drive. I don't know the speed of the hard drive - probably 5400 or 7200. I'm running Reason 6.5.

My computer just cannot play my songs. They are so effect intensive that half of them give my computer a hard time and it will stop playing the song. I have Reason set to use 95% of computer resources. I have a memory freer program and keep all available memory free that I can. I minimize all synth modules and effect processors that I'm not using.

I'm now using the Yoko Unfiltered Audio rack extension, along with the Softube FET Compressor and Ozone Maximizer. These three have really pushed it over the edge. The only thing that I can do is export the song as a WAV or AIFF and start a new project, and try to edit/master it there.

I'm guessing the hard drive cannot spin fast enough to load the samples on the fly, as well and handle the gobs of effects that I'm using. Some people say upgrading to 8GB RAM from the 4 GB that I have will help. Some say it won't do much. One person said I should get an external solid state HD since it doesn't rely on moving parts. But then I'd have to use USB 2.0 or firewire to connect it - and would that negate the fact that I'm trying to use the faster hard drive?

Finally, if it's my 2.5 core 2 duo processor, would I be best off getting an I5 dual core or quad core Mac Pro? I'd like to not go this route right now because I've been saving for an engagement ring.

Suggestions?

While replacing your old mechanical HDD with an SDD will definitely breath new life into your computer, it won't do diddly squat for CPU intensive stuff. So, ideally - drop $199 on a 256 GB OCZ Vertex or something like that if you want to get another 6 months to a year of life out of your current machine, but really an i7 (or at least an i5) would be better served. Re's tend to burn through the CPU cycles a bit more than stock Reason. The more CPU cores and the higher the clock, the better!

MAGNET001 2012-11-18 00:26

Thanks for the reply. I really want to pull the trigger on some of these lightly used 15" macbooks with quad core but I have a ring I'm eyeing and I know I'll feet guilty if I spend some of that money on a computer haha.

The Ozone Maximizer has a high quality export. Do you think exporting as a high quality WAV, then importing to a new Reason file and do a light master there? I'll experiment but since I'm not a trained audio engineer, I want to make sure that I'm not compromising quality before I send this to a professional.

DimitrisG 2012-11-18 00:55

Upgrade your ram only if your projects limits your current ram,otherwise you will spend money for no reason.

Reason has an indicator that lights up when the hard drive cant handle the workload. So this is not your case.

REs are CPU hungry... and they suck the blood of that old macbook pro.

If you are a producer get an i7, but if you are apple's fanboy and don't have enough money go to the i5 solution and buy in two years or so an other mac.

I build my own pc ugrating old parts to i7 3770k overclocked @ 4.5 GHz / 8 B gb of 1600 hz ram / 240 gb ssd, two 23'' monitors for less than 900 euros, and I have a killer system, I can through limitless effects with no issues.

but yes I know... macs looks good.... lol

pushedbutton 2012-11-18 01:30

Computer Too Slow Notification = CPU is too slow or too busy downloading porn.
Yellow Disk Read Speed warning and audio drop outs = Hard Drive too slow or too busy.
An SSD wont fix a slow processor.

upallnight 2012-11-19 05:41

Have you deleted unused recordings under edit on menu on top of the screen ? Have you saved and optimize under file: choose save and optimize? You also may want to consider reducing the amount of tracks you have if high or bouncing several tracks onto one to help the cpu. Finally, I have ready boost on my flash drive. I have windows 7 it is stored on a flash drive under properties. Note though, if you can't see ready boost that means it won't work on your system.

PsyTale 2012-11-19 07:56

Please support my recent question to the props about this: https://www.propellerheads.se/forum/...d.php?t=171096

EdwardR 2012-11-19 15:16

As someone who experienced this myself earlier this year.

I went to The Producers Conference at MOS and James from Freemasons gave out the file he was demo-ing.

Rushed home, downloaded it and when i clicked play....I got told my machine was too slow. Even on the most generous settings. It was a 3 year old Macbook Core2Duo, with 4GB of RAM.

There was no more I could do to make that machine any better. So I sold it and bought a 15 MBP... The same project didn't touch 10% of the system resources.

I would definitely try a new machine rather then attempting to make do with an SSD.


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