Propellerhead Forum

Propellerhead Forum (https://www.propellerheads.se/forum/index.php)
-   General Forum (read only) (https://www.propellerheads.se/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=3)
-   -   recording booth glass window (https://www.propellerheads.se/forum/showthread.php?t=171396)

Burnet23 2012-11-22 02:46

recording booth glass window
 
hello , building my booth in my new studio, was wondering do anyone know where I can buy a window for it already made n ready to insert in wall of my booth making it possible to view booth to control room and vice versa? like pre fabricated

freyelise 2012-11-22 12:19

You could try the yellow pages..? Under G for glass or W for window.

ryszard 2012-11-22 12:31

There are studio supply houses that MIGHT carry such things. However, they are likely to be quite expensive. Finding one the size you needed could be problematic. Having one custom made would probably be prohibitive.

TAB Books has a book on building a home recording studio on a budget which has detailed instructions for such a window. As I recall it was fairly simple to build and would save you a bundle. The key features were non-parallel double glass panes set in sound-deadening material with an acoustic trap between.

HTH,

Richard

normen 2012-11-22 12:34

Note that the real ones are usually filled with a gas to further enhance the insulation properties of the construction.

tincture 2012-11-22 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhansen (Post 1182894)
Note that the real ones are usually filled with a gas to further enhance the insulation properties of the construction.

I would have thought that sucking out any gases between the glass panes to create a vacuum would give better sound isolation?

normen 2012-11-22 16:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by tincture (Post 1182914)
I would have thought that sucking out any gases between the glass panes to create a vacuum would give better sound isolation?

Not really , I guess the coupling of the two surfaces only gets stronger through the suction? I'm no building material expert but I didn't hear of ones with a vacuum yet.

tincture 2012-11-22 16:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhansen (Post 1182989)
Not really , I guess the coupling of the two surfaces only gets stronger through the suction? I'm no building material expert but I didn't hear of ones with a vacuum yet.

The vacuum would reduce the coupling between the two panes. Any coupling is passed through the intermediate material, i.e. the gas molecules. Remove the gas and you should reduce the coupling/transmission between them. I guess it might be a safety risk anyway having the a vacuum between the panes. I'm just curious what effect changing the air between the panes to another gas would do? Very little as far as I can tell.

normen 2012-11-22 17:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by tincture (Post 1182992)
The vacuum would reduce the coupling between the two panes. Any coupling is passed through the intermediate material, i.e. the gas molecules. Remove the gas and you should reduce the coupling/transmission between them. I guess it might be a safety risk anyway having the a vacuum between the panes. I'm just curious what effect changing the air between the panes to another gas would do? Very little as far as I can tell.

Its not very little what argon does, else people wouldn't spend the time and money on it ^^
http://www.soundproofing-windows.net...ter-insulation

Yeah, I just thought that in practice if one of the windows starts to vibrate it would make the other go along through the suction but it doesn't seem so.

Heres some manufacturer that does vacuum-double-windows: http://www.bine.info/fileadmin/conte..._internetx.pdf

It looks like they are in the same range as the argon filled ones.. And the argon ones don't implode ;)

tincture 2012-11-22 17:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhansen (Post 1183023)
Its not very little what argon does, else people wouldn't spend the time and money on it ^^
http://www.soundproofing-windows.net...ter-insulation

Yeah, I just thought that in practice if one of the windows starts to vibrate it would make the other go along through the suction but it doesn't seem so.

Heres some manufacturer that does vacuum-double-windows: http://www.bine.info/fileadmin/conte..._internetx.pdf

It looks like they are in the same range as the argon filled ones.. And the argon ones don't implode ;)

Argon, interesting. I guess it's down to the heat capacity of the gas. Just went and checked and the heat capacity of Argon is half that of air so that seems likely. I guess because its monoatomic so it can't vibrate in as many modes as diatomic nitrogen and oxygen. So yes, you're right it seems it can help. I live and learn :)

sagana33 2012-11-22 17:44

Having built several sound studios, I would say that a window is a luxury that you shouldn't even contemplate, unless you quite proficient in the art.

It's hard enough to get a small space to be _really_ soundproof. The idea that you can add a window without causing sound to leak in is... well, let's say, brave. At best.

Now if you manage to prove me wrong I'll be delighted!
Let us know what the results are.


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 14:31.