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elMisse 2013-06-16 18:51

AKG C1000s alternatives
 
Looking for a overall condenser mic similar to the c1000 I used to own. I'll use it mainly for sampling my burps etc.

Priceclass also similar to c1000...

Any recommendations? :)

nickmorgan19457 2013-06-16 20:43

[QUOTE=elMisse;1339041I'll use it mainly for sampling my burps etc.[/QUOTE]
Is this slang for something?

elMisse 2013-06-16 21:56

no, but crappy humor.

selig 2013-06-16 22:13

From Tape Op:
http://www.charteroakacoustics.com/p...DCshootout.pdf
$300 or less – AKG C 1000 S; Audio-Technica Pro 37R
(Eastside Flash, Flashpoint Recording), AT4021, AT4041,
and ATM450; Avantone CK-1 (Mark Donovan, Austin to
Boston Recording); Avenson STO-2 (Stuart Sullivan, Wire
Recording); CAD GXL1200; Kel Audio HM-1; MXL 604 and
V67N; Naiant X-M with and without transformer option;
Oktava MK-012; RØDE NT5 (Britton Beisenhertz, Ramble
Creek Recording); Samson CO2 (Daniel Gill, Reicher
Recording); SE Electronics SE1 (Pat Manske, The Zone
Recording) and SE3; Shure SM137; and Studio Projects C4
(singer-songwriter Mark Viator).
The standouts were the MXL V67N ($129), the Naiant
X-M omni with transformer ($69), and the surprising AT4021
($249). I say surprising because it easily surpassed highernumbered
AT models including the 4041 and the nowdefunct
AT4031. It was not only competitive with the
4051a, the noise specs were some of the best of any mic in
any price class.

I personally find the Rode NT-5s a great substitute to my all time favorite small diaphragm condenser, the KM-84 (and the newer KM-184). Although I've not heard of them before and they are more expensive than the other choices, the Miktek C5 also gets great reviews. :-)

nickmorgan19457 2013-06-16 23:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by selig (Post 1339130)
From Tape Op:
http://www.charteroakacoustics.com/p...DCshootout.pdf
$300 or less – AKG C 1000 S; Audio-Technica Pro 37R
(Eastside Flash, Flashpoint Recording), AT4021, AT4041,
and ATM450; Avantone CK-1 (Mark Donovan, Austin to
Boston Recording); Avenson STO-2 (Stuart Sullivan, Wire
Recording); CAD GXL1200; Kel Audio HM-1; MXL 604 and
V67N; Naiant X-M with and without transformer option;
Oktava MK-012; RØDE NT5 (Britton Beisenhertz, Ramble
Creek Recording); Samson CO2 (Daniel Gill, Reicher
Recording); SE Electronics SE1 (Pat Manske, The Zone
Recording) and SE3; Shure SM137; and Studio Projects C4
(singer-songwriter Mark Viator).
The standouts were the MXL V67N ($129), the Naiant
X-M omni with transformer ($69), and the surprising AT4021
($249). I say surprising because it easily surpassed highernumbered
AT models including the 4041 and the nowdefunct
AT4031. It was not only competitive with the
4051a, the noise specs were some of the best of any mic in
any price class.

I personally find the Rode NT-5s a great substitute to my all time favorite small diaphragm condenser, the KM-84 (and the newer KM-184). Although I've not heard of them before and they are more expensive than the other choices, the Miktek C5 also gets great reviews. :-)

Of this list I can say that the NT5 (as 's', presumably), ATM450, and the SE Electronics stuff are pretty good. I haven't heard anything else. Are you dead set on getting another small diaphragm mic?

elMisse 2013-06-17 08:44

I have a pair of Joly-modded cheapo SDMs for recording my percussion but I don't want to carry them around at all.

C1000 was a nice one because it was quite "heavy-duty" built. It just sounded like something was a bit wrong, and that's mainly why I'm studying the alternatives :)

I will carry this mic around quite a lot.
I record speech, some singing, and all kinds of strange sounds.

So... I am probably talking about mics like Rode M3 to Audio Technica AT 8033 but I have no idea how they compare with the C1000s, which had it's problems.

auschris 2013-06-17 09:07

Hi elMisse, I own and use a Rode NT3 which has some similarity to the C1000 in that it has a 3/4" Capsule and has a hypercardoid pickup pattern. Between the 2 mics they have different frequency response signatures.

With the NT3 you can put in a 9v battery which makes it great for location / outdoor field recordings where power limitations are an issue.

I have had the Rode NT3 for nearly 10 years and have found it to be very versatile, reliable and clean sounding. Have used it on sources such as both male / female vocals, acoustic guitar, guitar cab room mic, live gig room mic and field recordings.

Anyway just my experience.

Chris

elMisse 2013-06-17 09:44

Thanks Selig for the link, interesting stuff.. BTW, have you heard the Michael Joly mod of Oktava MK-012 compared to KM-84? :) I think you can still find the soundfiles somewhere on his site http://www.oktavamodshop.com/

And Chris, thanks for the review. NT3 seems close to perfect for me! The battery-option is a good thing yes.

selig 2013-06-17 16:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by elMisse (Post 1339377)
Thanks Selig for the link, interesting stuff.. BTW, have you heard the Michael Joly mod of Oktava MK-012 compared to KM-84? :) I think you can still find the soundfiles somewhere on his site http://www.oktavamodshop.com/

And Chris, thanks for the review. NT3 seems close to perfect for me! The battery-option is a good thing yes.

I've not heard the modded ones, but the originals left me with a 'meh' - I can't imagine anything short of a total sonic makeover (which would be unlikely IMO) that would cause me to want to use them. ;-)

Also, consider the stereo NT4 if you want to do field recordings… :-)

mcatalao 2013-06-17 16:49

Actually,

i have the Oktava mk012 (not modded) and they are quite nice.

I use them on almost every kind of instrument, from acoustic guitar, to winds, and percussions.

You also can buy the multiple head kit, but it goes up to 500 €.
Be sure to get a real oktava and not the chinese copies...


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