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Old 2010-11-11, 10:19
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LFO device

I´m just wondering if it could be useful to have a separate device with maybe 4 or 8 LFO´s for CV tweaking.

What do you think ?
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Old 2010-11-11, 10:41
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I was mulling over this the other day. It would be quite useful - especially if the L of LFO went really bloody low... 0.4 ... 0.3 .... 0.2 - she cannae ta'e much more, cap'ain! - 0.1 ...

I use Thor and Mal all the time for the external LFOs, and recently broke out JBs' automation toolbox which helps a lot.

So how about a 8 knob LFO device - freely routable, so any internal LFO can be routed to control the Rate and/or CV output amount of any other - with 8 CV outs and all the waveforms one could possibly need.
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Old 2010-11-11, 12:37
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Maybe something a little like this?

Edit> This is now showing version 2, with lowlifebewares' AMMO suggestion and Selig's modular system. I think 8 slots looks way too busy though. 4 slots, or at a push 6 slots would be better imo.
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Old 2010-11-11, 14:16
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jiggery nailed it, I have been thinking about something like this for a while and I cant figure out why they havent done this. cant be that hard to do and in a complex combinator so much easier in the eyes to see what is doing what.

On the same note I would do a filter module (replacing the crappy one) with a double or triple one, a little like 2 or 3 thor selectable filters side by side resulting about the same size as jiggery lfo module. They already have have all the code.
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Old 2010-11-11, 15:31
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The backside too!

Pretty basic mockup, but you can see how one LFO could control the rate of another, or with a spider cv as well, several others.

Edit> I've left this as v1, but with the v2 front you can appreciate the back is probably going to look a lot more complex - it would likely need audio in and outs as well
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Old 2010-11-11, 17:14
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As cool as this is, I would still personally prefer a modular approach with different types of LFOs including the existing ones (How 'bout a Thor AND a Malstrom LFO together)! How many times do you need 8 identical LFOs? How many folks have complained about having to use an entire device when they needed a single LFO? What about other LFO approaches, like a draw-able LFO, or additional features like a phase control or an external trigger or a quadrature LFO or an LFO with all waveforms available at once (and separate outs or a wave mixer), or one with pulse width modulation, etc...

PLUS, many folks are asking for advanced CV functions and controls that could be used to build more complex CV chains, and could include advanced envelopes and step sequencers as well.

And once you go down this road you may find yourself asking: what about polyphonic CV devices? What about audio modules from other synths ("they already have the code")? What about a Mod Matrix to tie the modules together? With this approach you CAN have 8 identical LFOs (or just one) IF that's what you needed for a patch! But you could also easily have so much more...

As for going "super low", this was probably a typo but Thor already exceeds 0.1 cps as it goes down to 0.07 cps, which is one cycle every 14 seconds. But what if I told you that you can ALREADY use Thor's LFOs at THREE TIMES as slow a rate? That's one cycle every 45 seconds or so ( approx 0.02 CPS)! Slow enough for you? :-)

Then there's Thor's so-called 'audio' oscillators, which can function as LFOs and go down to almost one cycle every 30 seconds (when coaxed) - and the waveform choices are fairly incredible (and polyphonic) if you haven't already explored these options!

If not you can draw the waves as automation and use Thor to convert to CV (which I've been doing for quite a while now, and it can be useful), BUT these will always be 'global' (monophonic) LFOS.
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Old 2010-11-11, 23:34
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Maybe something a little like this?
I love this idea! I always thought it was sloppy to load an entire synth just to have access to its cv lfo. Oooo now I want one of these so bad...lol.
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Old 2010-11-11, 23:53
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Smile

Love the mock-up, but don't like the name!

How about AMMO - Advanced Modular Matrix Oscilator?

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Old 2010-11-12, 01:47
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I love this idea! I always thought it was sloppy to load an entire synth just to have access to its cv lfo. Oooo now I want one of these so bad...lol.
Hmm, ya, I really must stop doing this

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Love the mock-up, but don't like the name!

How about AMMO - Advanced Modular Matrix Oscilator?
Dagnabit!.... That's genius...
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Old 2010-11-12, 02:51
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I love this idea! I always thought it was sloppy to load an entire synth just to have access to its cv lfo. Oooo now I want one of these so bad...lol.
How about loading 8 LFOs when you only need one? ;-)

Wouldn't you like any other LFO options, like the LFO from Malstrom, or any of the other LFO types I mentioned?

I KNOW I can't be the ONLY mad scientist around here...

Trying to think like Disney here: there should always be a "PLUS". Roller-coaster = normal. Roller-coaster "IN THE DARK" = 'plus'.

I really DO like this idea, I'm just always thinking of the "plus". :-)
 

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