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Old 2012-08-17, 05:54
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recording vocals, distortion help!

i have Reason6.5 and reason essentials with balance
basically the vocal is fine until your power it! then it distorts horribly! even with using Clip Safe the recording is still bad, a friend of mine whose more used to this software then me put in a compressor and equaliser and made it better, but its still pretty bad! is this just a case of me messing around adjusting the levels on the compressor and equaliser until im getting the clear vocal through?

any help with htis would be great! thanks
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Old 2012-08-17, 06:27
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You're using a condenser microphone, correct? By "power it" do you mean phantom power? When you have a distorted signal such as this, don't try to fix it afterwards with eq and compression, fix it at the source.
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Old 2012-08-17, 06:52
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We need more info about your mic (dynamic or condenser). What are you using for a pre amp (or audio interface with mic pre amps). Are you monitoring in Reason or monitoring externally?

I agree with "thebretisdead" you gotta fix it at the source. Garbage in equals garbage out. Sounds to me like it might just be a mixing issue. Compression is only going to even out the dynamics and eq can only do so much to shape the sound.

How hot are you running all the other sounds in your mix? You might just need to turn everything else down so you won't have to turn the mic level up so loud and then turn your monitors up. You also might have to make some eq cuts in your sounds to make room for the vocals to cut through. From what it sounds like it could just be a mixing issue but I'm not sure. We need more info about everything.

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Old 2012-08-17, 07:41
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We need more info about your mic (dynamic or condenser). What are you using for a pre amp (or audio interface with mic pre amps). Are you monitoring in Reason or monitoring externally?

I agree with "thebretisdead" you gotta fix it at the source. Garbage in equals garbage out. Sounds to me like it might just be a mixing issue. Compression is only going to even out the dynamics and eq can only do so much to shape the sound.

How hot are you running all the other sounds in your mix? You might just need to turn everything else down so you won't have to turn the mic level up so loud and then turn your monitors up. You also might have to make some eq cuts in your sounds to make room for the vocals to cut through. From what it sounds like it could just be a mixing issue but I'm not sure. We need more info about everything.
Exactly right.

Most likely your microphone is turned up too loud. If you're recording with headphones one trick is to take one ear off so you can hear yourself sing with the volume turned really low.

Are the waveforms you record super distorted? That would mean the mic is too hot!
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Old 2012-08-17, 16:44
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if it's a condensor mic, how is the vocal fine "until you power it"? condensors require phantom power to function, so there should be no signal passing at all unless there's power.

also, has the mic sounded fine in earlier recordings? and have you recently put the mic on a relatively loud sound source without activating the pad? it's possible that you may have overloaded the capsule with too loud a source. I accidentally did this with a $300 mic recently and had to replace it. that won't happen again. I hope that's not the issue for you.
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Old 2012-08-17, 19:32
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the reason my info is lacking is that im just starting with this stuff lol, i have no previous background in this at all, i brought reason 5 originally as i intended on creating my own beats and upgraded to reason 6.5.. since then ive gained a good working relationship with a german producer. so i bought reason essentials with Balance. got myself a mic, this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rode-Nt1A-Co...5223945&sr=8-2

im in a two man hip hop group we rap and sing, my best mate who i do it with has a powerful voice, so and (again new to this, no previous recordings lol) so we've started using the kit to do rough recordings for practice before paying £30 at a studio. anyway we wanted to record the chorus of our main song which is a sang loud! he said it distorted horribly in the headphones, the best i can describe it is sounds like your shouting into a tin can, this is before weve even recorded this is just hearing yourself through the headphones.

yeah tried that with recording it lower with only wearing one side of the headphones. im sure it must be some silly thing i need to set or adjust that i dont know about lol, its bound to be the sort of thing if any of you experienced guys we're here you'd go " oh that! silly bugger just do this and job done" lol
 

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