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Old 2012-09-16, 10:20
Purpleb Purpleb is offline
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Bassline Fatigue...

Warning: This is a stupid and strange question,
i just want to make sure its not just me, this happens all the time to me, I throw together some drums and then start working on some basslines, then I will get a great sounding bassline pattern/couple bars, and I will let the drums and the bassline just play along (loop) while I tweak things or work on other sections, BUT in like 5-10 minutes, I start thinking the bassline sucks and then go back to it and try to fix it etc... and then after fixing it 5-10min later same thing happens again. Am I just getting tired of hearing the drum and bassline alone repeating over and over and over again? Well just wondering if this happens to others and what they do about it?
Old 2012-09-16, 10:56
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Originally Posted by Purpleb View Post
Am I just getting tired of hearing the drum and bassline alone repeating over and over and over again?

Try adding an arp- or synthline, maybe with some automation just to keep things fresh for a while.
Also try shifting hihats, percussion and bassnotes away from eachother with the position-tool in the inspector bar. A few ticks will help alot.
Combined with ReGroove, you shouldn't get bored that fast anymore.
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Old 2012-09-16, 11:44
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"Am I just getting tired of hearing the drum and bassline alone repeating over and over and over again? Well just wondering if this happens to others and what they do about it?"

IMHO, it's a common effect if you start to create a song with bass and drum,

don't get me wrong I come from the DNB/hiphop style, so I started many songs on this base me too,

but once you find the big drum and bass parts it's difficult to find interesting other parts and to leave the space for them,

add to this that most people (me too) tend to repeat the same things all the time

the more I produce music the less I "overuse" big bass sound,

start your song with the melody/ a chord/ a gimmick and put the bass on when you get it, just to make your song more "solid",

then create your drum part,

I don't say It's THE WAY to do it but for me it helps to create more interesting songs,

(perhaps also because for me to find the good drum/bass part is the easiest things in creating a song too).
Old 2012-09-16, 19:51
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This is why I play songs by hand rather than sequencing them. If you play a baseline from the start of a song to the end, you almost always add some interesting variations or change the pattern entirely.

But, even the bass player in my band will get annoying if he plays the exact same bassline over and over. Making the bassline 4 measures or more helps, a 2 bar loop will get monotonous more quickly.
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Old 2012-09-16, 22:46
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I've fallen in that pit more than a few times myself, but have managed to find a way out. My experience is that it is very rewarding to slap together a cool bassline with a punchy beat, but I very rarely succeed in turning that into a complete song.

Nowadays when I believe I've found the vibe in a cool drum/bassline, I stop the sequencer and walk away from it. I try to imagine how I would like the idea be part of a melody or a chord structure. I then try to find the next stage of the idea - bridge, chorus, whatever - and then try to imagine what bassline would go with that stage. Sometimes I try to complete the idea/song on a piano or a guitar.

I then go back to my drum/bassline idea to "fill in the blanks".
Old 2012-09-17, 00:08
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Oddly, I have the exact opposite problem, as I still find a repeating 303 type line with some filter action endlessly fascinating. Lock into the groove, twiddle some knobs, 20 minutes later still there fiddling about
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Old 2012-09-17, 17:51
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I TOTALLY agree with this post.

This is the main problem with modern music production - we do it in isolation a lot.

If you imagine a band situation, often times the songwriter will have full song ie melody and words written to be 'filled in' by the rythm section in practice.
Old 2012-09-18, 04:17
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Great answers and ideas everyone. I think I am going to try an start songs from different areas then drums and makes more sense starting with melody or some chords or both before laying down the rhythm section.
Old 2012-09-18, 04:52
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You might also just try muting the drums/bass for a while if you have an idea you like but you don't want to hear it running incessantly will you work on another instrument. It might take some work to get them to mesh afterward, but it shouldn't be as bad as editing it 10 different times after hearing it hundreds of times, and it's better than ignoring and forgetting a good idea.
Old 2012-09-17, 15:43
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