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Old 2012-12-04, 07:09
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New audio interface

Ive been thinking it might be time I started thinking about a new audio interface to replace my trusty but ageing M-Audio Delta 44. I'd be looking for something similar but a bit more up to date with the highest audio quality possible. So, top quality with at least 4x4 audio i/o ..... That's about it! MIDI i/o might be a bonus so I could replace my equally ageing M-Audio 2x2 MIDIman interface.

I'm usually pretty up on this stuff but I've not been paying much attention lately and now I realise it's a bit of a mind field out there! the Delta is a PCI board with breakout box. I kind of like that idea and previously I was a bit worried about going for a USB / FireWire interface. Should this be a worry these days? Finally budget .... Erm, not sure. Let's say up to £500 as a ball park figure. Anything within that range would be cool though
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Old 2012-12-04, 09:03
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Hi,

In order to help out (I hope!) it'd be useful to know what kind of spec computer you'll be running it with?
Some processor/motherboard combos just aren't upto the job nowadays!

Anyways you'll get something fairly good with your budget whatever you end up choosing
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Old 2012-12-04, 09:14
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in the best case you take a intern PCI(e) card.
I recommend a RME Hammerfall DSP System

http://www.rme-audio.de/products_hdsp_9632.php

it is made in Germany

EDIT:

and you get DIGICHECK also:


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Old 2012-12-04, 09:55
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in the best case you take a intern PCI(e) card.
I recommend a RME Hammerfall DSP System

http://www.rme-audio.de/products_hdsp_9632.php
One of my mates uses RME Hammerfall and says it's top draw. I look the idea of one of these with this 4x4 audio i/o expansion board. Very nice & I wouldn't have to concern myself with any USB woes, which is very appealing. A PCI/PCI-e board has got to be better than a USB/Firewire option even today surely?
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Old 2012-12-04, 10:49
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One of my mates uses RME Hammerfall and says it's top draw. I look the idea of one of these with this 4x4 audio i/o expansion board. Very nice & I wouldn't have to concern myself with any USB woes, which is very appealing. A PCI/PCI-e board has got to be better than a USB/Firewire option even today surely?
yes..

PCI or PCIe is much faster and much more stable than this USB sh*t!!!
The Firewire (Multifaces by RME) are pretty good also.

with the RME9632 you have ADAT IN and OUT.. Midi In and Out and also SPDIF and a good headphone preamp.
in combination with a "Marian Adcon" ADAT interface (8x IN&OUT) it is the ultimate weapon

The RME-Card sounds very clear and analytically.
It does not add any coloring and does not distort.

i had a

Emu 1616M PCI (good)
M-Audio Delta 2496 (mhh okay)
Motu 828MK2 (good)

but the RME is still the best for me.
it is stable, it sounds f*cking clean and it has the lowest possible latency i had ever used.

EDIT: and the drivers are always up to date!!

do not start laughing now ..
but this track on soundcloud, below (gain toy demo),
I've produced it with the onboard sound-card from my motherboard and an ASIO4ALL driver..

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Old 2012-12-04, 16:23
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in the best case you take a intern PCI(e) card.
I recommend a RME Hammerfall DSP System

http://www.rme-audio.de/products_hdsp_9632.php

it is made in Germany

EDIT:

and you get DIGICHECK also:

Can I ask if this one works with a Mac Pro ?
( I guess yes in according with the little button in the active window )
thanx on advance ( I need also to change my m-audio with some new beast)
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Old 2012-12-04, 16:42
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Can I ask if this one works with a Mac Pro ?
( I guess yes in according with the little button in the active window )
thanx on advance ( I need also to change my m-audio with some new beast)

yes
take a look at the Page:
http://www.rme-audio.de/en_downloads...s_driver_hdspe

and take a look into their references
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Old 2012-12-04, 19:18
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Another angle of thought!

Hi,

I don't want to get into contradicting anyone, but your best bet is possibly with firewire.

There isn't much around with usb 3.0 support yet and whilst usb 2.0 is faster than FW 400 on paper, it doesn't handle data in such a economic way. Google usb 2.0 vs Firewire 400 to read up on it.
Also you'd be using your usb for all sorts of stuff (mice keyboard and more etc.) which would mean that your usb powered Audio interface wouldn't run as well having to deal with the extra loads. Where as you could get a TI Firewire port (400 or 800 only no mixing here!) and 'just' run your audio interface through this so that the drivers stay nice and uninterrupted. The idea with Audio based computer applications is that it remains as clean as possible.

Agreed about Apple, not worth the $$££ imo. Hackintosh = updating issues from what I've heard. Someone else made a good post here on the Props forums about it.

I've only heard bad things about PCI/PCIe connections but I might be wrong!

At the end of the day if you run your gear with a good i7 quad (not i5, don't listen to the overclocking gamers!)minimum of 16 gigs ram and a good quality motherboard (Asus Z77 range is the current best for Audio applications) and a noise free graphics card (Sapphire Radeon 7770 is 0dB and GDDR5 and doesn't cost £300) then you'll have no problems with just about any Audio Interface and it's drivers/software.


Disclaimer: This is all pure speculation based on what I know and use + what I've read up myself.
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Old 2012-12-04, 09:51
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It'd be useful to know what kind of spec computer you'll be running it with? Some processor/motherboard combos just aren't upto the job nowadays! Anyways you'll get something fairly good with your budget whatever you end up choosing
Computer needs an upgrade as well, no doubt about that. It's a way off but I may end up getting an iMac ..... though most likely I'll build another PC around an i5/i7 CPU with enough RAM to take over a small country!
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Old 2012-12-04, 14:10
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I had:

Pulsar - Great audio card and very detailed sound
EMU 1616M (Great mastering converters but poor built quality and patchmix not intuitive)
MOTU Ultralite inferior to the 2 mentioned above
Fireface 400 - great converters - great driver - super intuitive total mix

I have now sold FF400 and have a Komplete Audio 6, Apogee Duet2

If you are on a PC
Focusrite Forte
If you are on a MAC
Apogee duet 2, Quartet or Metric Halo ULN2
 

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