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Old 2013-01-17, 18:52
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Hi all, Im 34 years old, and have been listening to rave and dance music for over 20years now and have been making music on and off in that time too. I had a brain wave the other day when I heard of a technology called tdcs or tms which is a brain magnetic stimulation that is a device that you put on your head and it can induce different highs to the mind, some report euphoria, caffeine six times stronger or being on amphetimines, at the moment it is used for to treat depression, addictions to chemical drugs and alcohol and can treat pain all through an electronic device! So the brainwave I had was what if we could add this to music and have an ecstacy effect while listening to some banging rave techno, what if we had a device we could sequence different highs at different times to our music, we wouldn't be just sequencing sound but sequencing our emotions and highs too! This would be a discovery better than the electric synth or sub bass! This would add flavour to music don't you think? I think this would be the future! Opinions please?
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Old 2013-01-18, 00:01
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Ummm this sort of thing worrys me.... maybe becuase i've seen what ''other'' things do to people / myself or maybe due to having kids but i am not keen on messing around with brain waves to be fair.

Long term what happens ? How far can you take this .... ie could fantasy's become real ?
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Old 2013-01-18, 00:17
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ie could fantasy's become real ?
Yep, they can. :-)
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Old 2013-01-18, 17:46
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Yes new technology is scary, but if they can make it safe then it's better than the real thing!
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Old 2013-01-18, 18:41
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For the logical extreme of electronic drugs, check out this Wikipedia article on the "droud," a fictional device that connects directly to the brain. In author Larry Niven's universe, users are known as "wireheads,"

I actually experienced an early form of what the OP is describing in the late 1980s. An inventor in north Georgia (USA) has created a device which aligns with the chakra points of the body and injects frequencies via sonar transducers which are designed to produce a centering, meditative effect. In my case it did so quite dramatically. The effect lasted for weeks.

Flashing forward, Sony is said to have developed a technology for simulating odors during movies which is somehow transmitted into the human brain. Wonder how long that will be legal, or what three-letter government agency will appropriate it for their own uses?

You really need to be careful when playing directly with the brain. Who is in control of the programming, and what are their motives? The effects are as likely to be destructive as pleasurable, just as with synthetic drugs today. For now I'll take my stimulation from music indirectly, just as we have for millenia--through the ears and body, and filtered through the mind and spirit.

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Old 2013-01-18, 19:08
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or what three-letter government agency will appropriate it for their own uses?
I think that when we hear about it they have already tested it extensively
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This would add flavour to music don't you think?
Would probably make the drugs moar awesome aswell. :P
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Old 2013-01-18, 00:23
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Would probably make the drugs moar awesome aswell. :P
Drugs ain't good. ;P
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Old 2013-01-18, 02:59
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different frequencies already promote different emotional reactions in people.

music is already scientifically known to trigger certain reactions in the brain (eg. dopamine and seratonin receptors). although a lot of how we interpret music is culturally dependent, there are certain elements of music which are hardwired into our brains (such as our interpretation and appreciation of rhythm).

not talking mumbo jumbo but music already causes an emotional reaction in people. that is one of the main characteristics of which constitutes quality (according to a lot of critics anyway).

I can listen to a single sound from Sonic the Hedgehog, Golden Axe or Streets of Rage and I am instantly enveloped by a wave of nostalgia.

but basically you would want to artificially "force" certain emotional reactions onto people whilst they are listening to music (you could argue that the majority of EDM is already based on this premise as nearly every single genre revolves around the partaking of one particular substance, which accordingly affects the music).

in that scenario the "drug" (or artificial high) becomes the main attraction and the music is simply background noise.
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Old 2013-01-18, 03:06
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I love drugs! But as stated earlier it doesn't really work with making music. I like to smoke a joint when i'm composing but that's it. Any other stuff will render you unable to do something useful
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