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Old 2013-03-28, 11:25
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How many EQs can I use to do Surgical EQ?

Hi all!

I have this drumloop that i am trying to get as clean as possible.
First I put a M-Class EQ to it, next a M-Class EQ.

How many EQs can I use to do Surgical EQ, and get rid of all the frequencies that "hurt"???
Is there a rule to it?

Thanks!
Chris
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Old 2013-03-28, 13:48
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Yeah, as in Reason you don't have real cables and transformers diminishing the sound quality in every device you can really put them in endlessly. They will only shift the phase where they work a little, like all EQs. But they do virtually nothing to other parts.
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Old 2013-03-28, 16:25
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I don't know how many YOU can use, but I can use seven: ;-)


Taken from the Selig B3-Leslie, specifically the Treble Rotor speaker/cabinet emulation section, FWIW. :-)
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Old 2013-03-28, 20:25
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I don't know how many YOU can use, but I can use seven: ;-)


Taken from the Selig B3-Leslie, specifically the Treble Rotor speaker/cabinet emulation section, FWIW. :-)
I've looked at that a dozen times or so and gone "he must have a reason for this...I'll leave it alone". I've mentioned this before, but that combi is freaking awesome.

Does anyone know if the MClass EQ is phase linear? I know the crossover section of the Stereo Imager is.
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Old 2013-03-28, 20:29
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Good to see I'm not the only stacking lots of MClass EQs on each other. I wish it had more bands, so we could save rack space.
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Old 2013-03-28, 21:46
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I've looked at that a dozen times or so and gone "he must have a reason for this...I'll leave it alone". I've mentioned this before, but that combi is freaking awesome.

Does anyone know if the MClass EQ is phase linear? I know the crossover section of the Stereo Imager is.
I'm not sure the Stereo Imager uses linear phase filters for it's crossovers - are you reading this somewhere?

The reason for all the EQs is that I'm matching the frequency response of the Treble Rotor of a Leslie rotating speaker cabinet. There are so many different cancellations/reflections inside that box! That's simply how many EQs it took to reproduce the frequency response of the original. I should note that without the EQs, the Leslie effect is quite tame and more like a stereo chorus IMO - I even have a preset saved that way for just such comparisons! ;-)
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I don't know how many YOU can use, but I can use seven: ;-)


Taken from the Selig B3-Leslie, specifically the Treble Rotor speaker/cabinet emulation section, FWIW. :-)
Is it comparable with the Ableton EQ Eight?
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Hi all!

I have this drumloop that i am trying to get as clean as possible.
First I put a M-Class EQ to it, next a M-Class EQ.

How many EQs can I use to do Surgical EQ, and get rid of all the frequencies that "hurt"???
Is there a rule to it?

Thanks!
Chris
Would you mind sharing a before and after shot of the loop? Personally I struggle quite a bit with the highs of loops stacking a whole bunch of m-classes to get rid of nasty stuff. It would be interesting to hear your results.
 

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