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Old 2003-06-04, 00:09
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Any opinions on music theory?

I am interested to know how many of the Reason users out there are actually musicians...meaning those who actually learned to play an instrument and everything that goes with it, i.e. theory, harmonies, chord structures, etc, etc, etc.

I am postulating whether there is only so far that one can go in making music before one realises that to progress further some knowledge and understanding of musical theory is required.

Of course, there are those who play by ear, but I think that perhaps to reach that greater depth of the creative person inside, one needs to be versed in some theory at least which would help.

As an analogy, one could think of speaking a foreign language. Knowing just a few words would probably get you by, but those few words backed with knowledge of the grammer would make make all the difference, and you would be able to express yourself much more faithfully.

It would be interesting to know what opinions are on this. Thx.

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Old 2003-06-04, 00:29
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Re: Any opinions on music theory?


"I haven't learned enough about music theory to hurt my playing"- Greg Allman.
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Old 2003-06-04, 00:30
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Re: Any opinions on music theory?

IMHO, the more you know, the better. Like language...if you can speak, but can't read or write, you ability to communicate is limited. Knowledge is power.

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Old 2003-06-04, 00:57
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Re: Any opinions on music theory?

Like a lot of disciplines, you only realise how much you don't know until you study it. Often one thinks, 'well what has this got do do with what I want to do?'. And more often then not, you realise in the end, that, what was happening all that time was that you were laying the foundations!

And, one day, you realise that you go free and create freely, forgetting everything you learned in the first place! But you had to learn it to get to where you are!

Because your knowledge is always there inside of you and part of you, and works through you permeating your every creation, without you even realising

I believe that when you learn something well enough for you to forget about it...that's when the fruits of creativity blossom.

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Old 2003-06-04, 01:39
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Re: Any opinions on music theory?

well i guess a synth is not an instrument then. Sorry im just a stupid techno head. Well i suppose technos not real music. listen i can play the toilet seat if i want to!!! hehehe
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Old 2010-06-04, 05:31
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I couldn't have put it better Mr Dave Bull. One should just ROCK. I think one of the cool things about music is that their are as many different approaches to it as there are people.
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Old 2010-06-03, 00:39
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6 years jazz training on bass
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Old 2003-06-04, 01:14
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Re: Any opinions on music theory?

I think it can cut both ways: I was trained as a classical pianist and also learnt theory. I play all sorts of instruments, from reason to keyboards to guitar.

There are times when I am very thankful for my understanding of theory, as it can be almost like a template for the placement of ideas. On the other hand music creation, writing, arranging etc. is primarily an intuitive and creative process where it is best not to be bound by rules and structures.

Like any rules, the best at what they do know when to throw out the ideas and break some rules. It's knowing when to apply the theory and when not to that counts.

I have worked with musicians that don't know any theory at all, but their instinctive knowledge of what works and what doesn't more than made up for any lack of standard music theory.

My advice is to just keep on making music, that's the best training around. Sure, learn about different modes, scales and harmonies if you are interested. But it's not crucial. Remember, a knowledge of music theory will never make up for a basic lack of good ideas - as I know from first hand experience :-)

cheers - bh
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Old 2003-06-04, 01:33
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Re: Any opinions on music theory?

Hah! I typed my message having not read yours. Same classically trained pianist analogy! (just glad you agreed with me..)
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Old 2003-06-04, 01:39
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Re: Any opinions on music theory?

I sure do agree. Excellent post (below) - I was in a hurry, so I say "plus, what CephaloPod says"...

What you said about classical pianists being wired to play that way is true in my experience. I still have to fight the urge to start playing that way when I noodle around on a synth.

cheers - bh

:Hah! I typed my message having not read yours. Same classically trained pianist analogy! (just glad you agreed with me..)
 

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