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Old 2012-08-15, 22:12
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Flower Audio Loudness Meter

This is exactly what I've been needing. I'm sick of A/Bing my masters to commercial tracks and still being unsure. And only 20$?? SOLD. Anybody else as excited about this as me?
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Old 2012-08-15, 22:57
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This is exactly what I've been needing. I'm sick of A/Bing my masters to commercial tracks and still being unsure. And only 20$?? SOLD. Anybody else as excited about this as me?
Same here, bought it pretty much straight away. Couldn't argue with that price and its exactly what i need
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Old 2012-08-16, 15:12
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yeah, it's been pretty awesome so far. quick, visual response.
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Old 2012-08-16, 18:34
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Looks great - but to be honest im worried about the way its going.. Shouldnt this sort of thing come as free as part of Reason? I believe other DAWs have this sort of thing as standard.

I might be wrong - not taking anything away from this as agree it looks good, but I do wonder if we will ever get any free stuff with upgrades ever again or if Reason 7 will just be slightly improved architecture and any new instruments, fx, tools you have to pay for. If thats the case being a Reason user will get very expensive!
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Old 2012-08-16, 19:46
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Reason 6 and 6.5 was virtually free, so money saved there can be spent ugrading Reason how you want it with REs.
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Old 2012-08-16, 23:28
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Looks great - but to be honest im worried about the way its going.. Shouldnt this sort of thing come as free as part of Reason? I believe other DAWs have this sort of thing as standard.

I might be wrong - not taking anything away from this as agree it looks good, but I do wonder if we will ever get any free stuff with upgrades ever again or if Reason 7 will just be slightly improved architecture and any new instruments, fx, tools you have to pay for. If thats the case being a Reason user will get very expensive!
This sort of thing DOES come free with Reason IMO, which is something that not even Pro Tools offers. It's one of the more impressive features of Reason's metering IMO, and I use it ALL the time when mixing.

Have you tried using the Big Meter in VU + Peak mode to judge 'loudness' based on the Crest Factor (the difference between the Peak level and the VU/Average level)? Un-compressed (quieter) mixes will have higher Crest Factors, usually between 15 and 20 dB (or more) or so. Compressed mixes will register 10-15 dB or so, and mixes with a Crest Factor lower than 10 dB are going to sound VERY compressed (although these exact numbers are subjective). :-)
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Old 2012-08-16, 23:36
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Haha good response! I will attempt to copy you ;-)
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Old 2012-08-17, 00:01
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Exactly, I don't see what this thing gives me (apart from the nebulous "perceived" RMS value). Its even worse looking at numbers than a nice LED bar imo..? I also think that the Reason meter is one of its most impressive (and professional) assets, with sliding 0dB position even, fantastic!
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Old 2012-08-17, 03:34
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The perceived loudness option in the loudness meter is based on the International Telecommunications Union's ITU 1770 standard. The ITU have performed experiments that show that this is a good measure of perceived loudness. The European Broadcasters' Union have based their recommendations on this measure of loudness as well. So while it's trying to measure something that's not possible to universally define like loudness levels, it's not a random thing.

But what really did it for us were the listening experiments we did ourselves.

While a meter bar certainly has its own advantages, its position is not as easy to remember later as a number is. We chose to make a numerical display because we wanted people to check out the levels of the tracks they like and easily remember those numbers in the future without having to go back.

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Old 2012-08-17, 05:02
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Exactly, I don't see what this thing gives me (apart from the nebulous "perceived" RMS value). Its even worse looking at numbers than a nice LED bar imo..? I also think that the Reason meter is one of its most impressive (and professional) assets, with sliding 0dB position even, fantastic!
Agree to disagree. I think it's a really handy device, particularly if you're not so keen on meters. I very much like the idea of the Big Meter in reason, but I've never really used it, apart from one or two sparse occasions.

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