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Old 2012-08-27, 15:09
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going from 14:2 from previous versions to SSL

So I'm new to the SSL Mixer concept, with the 14:2 already used for subbing and such, how does this big mixing desk fit in? I'm confused, does the SSL connect with the whole reason paradigm of patching, or was it grafted on from record, and can be thought of as a separate metaphor for the tracks? In short, how does the 14:2, and everything else for that matter route to the SSL? I don't get how inserts are used with the ssl, when they can already be used with the 14:2 mixer. Is it just an extra place to put inserts?

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Old 2012-08-27, 15:23
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Here's the beginner to Reason 6 (but experienced audio engineer)'s take on your question.

Start thinking of the 14:2 as a submixer. The SSL is the main console now. It is far more flexible and gives you finer built-in control of EQ, dynamics, FX routing, and more. Unless you patch something in between such as insert FX, instruments are now routed directly to their own channel on the SSL. Thus you get greater control and, I believe, a potentially lighter load on system resources than before. The 14:2 is, of course, still eminently usable as that submixer, but there is a way to do that through a mix device. (I've been shown how, but I'll have to research it in order to explain.)

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Old 2012-08-27, 15:28
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ohh, But they both can still be used concurrently, though the ssl has more control, thanks. Quite jarring when compared to previous versions, though, for a reason 6 beginner.
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Old 2012-08-27, 15:43
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If you don't already know them, learn to use the keyboard shortcuts F5, F6, and F7. They call up the SSL, the rack, and the sequencer, respectively, and can be used in combination. This gives you quick access to the major functional components of Reason while letting you devote screen space to whichever you need most at a given time. And check the manual for SSL routing. Since you can't see the back like you can rack modules you'll need to study to know what's what.

Unsolicited testimonial: If you can afford it, I recommend the Manchester MIDI School's Reason Online course. (www.midischool.com) It assumes no knowledge of either Reason or recording, takes you through the basics (and not so basics) systematically, and shows you some advanced tricks, some of which I believe are undocumented. I plan to use Reason professionally. I'd be totally at sea without this course. It may look expensive, but compare it to the Berklee School of Music's equivalent offering.
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So I'm new to the SSL Mixer concept, with the 14:2 already used for subbing and such, how does this big mixing desk fit in? I'm confused, does the SSL connect with the whole reason paradigm of patching, or was it grafted on from record, and can be thought of as a separate metaphor for the tracks? In short, how does the 14:2, and everything else for that matter route to the SSL? I don't get how inserts are used with the ssl, when they can already be used with the 14:2 mixer. Is it just an extra place to put inserts?

Thanks for any replies.
The SSL is the 'final mixer' in the studio, and the others like the 14:2 are 'sub-mixers' off to the side (if you will). Everything eventually makes it's way through the big mixer (SSL), unless you really prefer the 14:2 (you can always patch the 14:2 direct to the hardware interface if you don't like the SSL for some reason).

The SSL has patching like other devices, even has CV inputs like the 14:2 and it's dynamics section has side-chain inputs and a CV gain reduction output. Also there are inserts and direct outputs, so yes the SSL DOES connect with the whole Reason paradigm of patching. ;-)

There are no inserts on the 14:2 mixer, btw. They are not the same thing as patching an instrument before the input of the mixer channel. In the SSL, the insert can be moved before or after the EQ/Dynamics, and can be bypassed for A/B (handy for longer insert chains with multiple devices). :-)
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