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Old 2012-12-25, 10:56
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Not getting the snare sound i want. Can you help?

I'm trying to get a nice full snare sound like the one used by this artist in the song called 'Moon':
http://galaxies.bandcamp.com/album/like-a-lion

Up to this point, I've been using redrum and its sound banks, and just tweeking the sound with the tone/pitch etc. nobs. I'm trying to incorporate kong, but i get pretty lost. im new to all this. Can you guys help me get the sound I'm looking for? I tired of weak, empty sounding snares ya know. thanks in advance! and merry christmas!
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Old 2012-12-25, 11:01
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Layering is key. Maybe pick 3 or 4 snares with different character, you might find a live sounding snare that has the right 'ring' or snap to it, then a woody / tom-tom body of another, some 200Hz of a 3rd (again woody area).

Incredibly hard to achieve using just single snares themselves.

If you are using Reason 6 / 6.5 then import snare samples directly into the sequencer so you can see the audio files, and you can turn snap-to-grid off so you can 'slide' the audio clips around (you may find using the tick setting which is say 1.1.0.239 << the 239 is the 'tick' position), so that at certain points the snare might sound weak due to phase-cancellation, or may get massive because on filling the gaps and boosting / gelling together
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Old 2012-12-25, 13:46
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trick is similar to layering basskicks

one low freq snare and a higher freq snare a clickyer snare per say,

EQ is your friend when it comes down to layering and i find run both them into the same channel using a spider this is down to personal preference though this technique seems to work best for myself
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Old 2012-12-25, 22:58
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trick is similar to layering basskicks

one low freq snare and a higher freq snare a clickyer snare per say,

EQ is your friend when it comes down to layering and i find run both them into the same channel using a spider this is down to personal preference though this technique seems to work best for myself
I understand layering, but why would you use a spider if they are going into the same channel? Can you explain the logic behind this.

For snares I use the Kong, and add layers using the nano sampler and eq and compress to taste.

I've never understood the benefit of using the spider. Anyone care to explain?
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Old 2012-12-26, 05:54
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Good question , just the way the I work and way I have been taught but there is a few benefits example you are able to process, compress etc both incoming snare signals together , I always find having both snares signals ahead back to on channel a more tidy solution.





I use redrum if I have a snare on channel 1 and one on channel 2 I have chan 1 trigger chan 2 via CV then run both independent signals into a spider through to a compressor then into a SSL. I now have the benefit of the editing the sample via red rum pitch,length start point etc , I can also eq each signal independently before it hits the spider and maybe add a little reverb.

And obviously when the combined signals hit the SSL channel you have the array of the SSL goodies.


Have a little mess about this way a different approach may yield better results .
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Old 2012-12-26, 11:32
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Old 2012-12-26, 12:06
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Buy more snare samples. There is no magic formula. It is a mixture of some or all of the following: initial sample choice, layering, eq, compression and distortion.

Experimentation is what it is all about.
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Old 2012-12-26, 15:11
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I'm trying to get a nice full snare sound like the one used by this artist in the song called 'Moon':
http://galaxies.bandcamp.com/album/like-a-lion

Up to this point, I've been using redrum and its sound banks, and just tweeking the sound with the tone/pitch etc. nobs. I'm trying to incorporate kong, but i get pretty lost. im new to all this. Can you guys help me get the sound I'm looking for? I tired of weak, empty sounding snares ya know. thanks in advance! and merry christmas!
Internet is your friend here. There are tons of good quality snare samples for download on the Internet.
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Old 2012-12-26, 15:53
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Snares love the halfrack foldback distortion.
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Old 2012-12-26, 20:00
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layering snares/claps is the way to go.

I layer my snares with kong (nano nnxt), or the nnxt.

I use an mclass eq, to boost the snare body at 200hz.
I'll do a cut around 2.5hz or anywhere between 1hz - 3.5hz (whatever sounds best) You can also boost here instead of cutting, but i dont really prefer to do that.

putting the vocoder device on the snares is nice to. switch it to equalizer, and adjust the shift to get some cool tone to them.

also, offsetting snares and claps can make them sound fuller & wider. I do this a lot as well.
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