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Old 2013-01-27, 14:55
mr2010 mr2010 is offline
 
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Help me return to my roots (sampling) Recycle

Hi,

i started sampling years ago. from vinyl to tape, then i eventually bought my first sampler (yamaha). long story short, over the years i probably bought about 4 different hardware samplers. I wanted to start creating my own music, so i've pretty much abandoned sampling for probably a decade.

It took me a long time to switch over to software, i think when i did that played a big role in me not sampling....i just didn't understand it with the programs i was using. A couple years ago when I got my tax return i got Recycle! I've probably tried it 20 times at the most. It is such a headache for me. Yes i get sick of converting mp3 to wav then loading in rex, finding out the bars, trying to slice it right then saving to rex format. But, the absolute biggest headache and turnoff has been....it sounds like i have it sliced nice then i open it in reason and realize one of the chops start is off, etc... now i have to go back to recycle and do all this stuff again. far as getting everything on time, if i could preview (play slices) in recycle with my midi keyboard I really think that would help.

It just seems like my life (sampling) was so much easier back then. Any advice or workarounds?
Also I'd like to just straight up loop a sample, even that has been made difficult. with hardware i'd just sample, edit start /end and boom! i do know in 2 years i haven't given recycle much of a chance, i have watched some tutorials but it just seems like doing too much. It drains my energy pretty quick.

I've never tried sampling straight into R6.5, you guys think that would be better for loops? Any methods or advice?

My friend samples in tracktion, that looks so simple. Think a program like that is better for sampling? I'm not knocking Recycle at all, because i've heard some good stuff made with it, i just don't know if its for me.
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Old 2013-01-27, 16:17
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Talking Midi?

One thing you are definitely right about here - Recycle! should have MIDI. Why can't we just trigger the slices from C#1 like in Reason??

Beyong that (and this may add to your sense of headache), but are you chopping the slices manually, or with the sensitivity knob? I always do it manually. It's more time consuming (for sure), but then I get precise control over how the slices will work if I want to reorder them.

Also, pay attention to the 'attack' and 'decay' knobs in the envelope section. This may affect whether or not slices sound 'WRONG'... Just some ideas!
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Old 2013-01-27, 16:42
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One thing you are definitely right about here - Recycle! should have MIDI. Why can't we just trigger the slices from C#1 like in Reason??

Beyong that (and this may add to your sense of headache), but are you chopping the slices manually, or with the sensitivity knob? I always do it manually. It's more time consuming (for sure), but then I get precise control over how the slices will work if I want to reorder them.

Also, pay attention to the 'attack' and 'decay' knobs in the envelope section. This may affect whether or not slices sound 'WRONG'... Just some ideas!
Thanks for the reply. yes, I'm slicing manually. I guess when I get some extra cash I'll buy an inexpensive hardware sampler since I'm more comfortable with that.
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Old 2013-01-27, 16:43
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I guess it depends on what you want to do with your loops. Rex/Reason is ideal for breaking apart loops for re-sequencing and processing discrete drum hits out of a break, and for re-sequencing and repitching discrete notes/sections of musical loops.

But if you just want full loops straight from your MP3 collection, to layer them up with your own drums or whatever, you don't have to get into all that micro-editing. Just import to WAV on the timeline, or into Kong pads. The chopping and copying may be basic, but no less so than 90s samplers.

One tip that could avoid all the file management and conversion malarkey: use a different soundcard or even separate old computer for your MP3 playing, and record it directly into Reason. Basically treat iTunes or whatever as your turntable.

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