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Old 2013-05-21, 04:20
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NN-XT should be able to load a full rex loop as a single sample

Good old NN-XT should be able to load a full rex loop as a single sample. Currently you can only get all individual slices loaded as samples, can't you?

For some rex sound libraries it would be very good, if one could also load a rex file like it was just a stupid .wav so that pressing the corresponding midi note would then play the rex loop. It would be best if one could switch between a play mode which would behave like Dr. OctoRex playing the loop with matching transpose values and another mode where the loop is really treated like a normal wav sample.
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Old 2013-05-21, 17:02
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Good old NN-XT should be able to load a full rex loop as a single sample. Currently you can only get all individual slices loaded as samples, can't you?

For some rex sound libraries it would be very good, if one could also load a rex file like it was just a stupid .wav so that pressing the corresponding midi note would then play the rex loop. It would be best if one could switch between a play mode which would behave like Dr. OctoRex playing the loop with matching transpose values and another mode where the loop is really treated like a normal wav sample.
You'd give up tempo sync with this option - for now just import the REX into an audio track and bounce to new sample and you'll have it. :-)
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Old 2013-05-23, 23:49
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Unhappy converting to wav is too tiresome for 100+ loops

This doesn't help very much, as I got bunch of rex loops (e.g. guitar riffs) that should a) stay in sync and b) are recorded for each note individually.

Now it would be really useful if one could map each loop to the corresponding midi note (without converting those to wav first and therefore loosing the bpm flexibility a rex loop does offer.

With support for this mode of operation NN-XT would be closing in on StylusRMX.
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Old 2013-05-24, 00:59
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the kong plays rex files and you could have up to 16 of them is that what youre talking about?
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Old 2013-05-24, 02:03
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Not exactly.

Take for example the big bad bass guitar rex loop library from 9V audio. In this Library you've got a toolbox folder with different guitar riffs played on all notes of two octaves so one would need 24 pads to have those playable. If NN-XT was able to play a complete Rex loop mapped to a key (much like you can do in kong) instead of just a slice of the loop you could create large patches covering the whole keyboard like this for example:
C1-B2 strums, C2-B3 powerchords, C3-B4 8th notes, ...

Have a look at the video on the page linked above on how nice this works within StylusRMX. In my opinion it should not be that hard to get NN-XT updated with this feature.

(If NN-XT could also do key switching like kontakt it would be even better, as you could then use one hand to switch between playing styles and the other to select which note to play.)
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Old 2013-05-24, 02:13
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Not exactly.

Take for example the big bad bass guitar rex loop library from 9V audio. In this Library you've got a toolbox folder with different guitar riffs played on all notes of two octaves so one would need 24 pads to have those playable. If NN-XT was able to play a complete Rex loop mapped to a key (much like you can do in kong) instead of just a slice of the loop you could create large patches covering the whole keyboard like this for example:
C1-B2 strums, C2-B3 powerchords, C3-B4 8th notes, ...

Have a look at the video on the page linked above on how nice this works within StylusRMX. In my opinion it should not be that hard to get NN-XT updated with this feature.

(If NN-XT could also do key switching like kontakt it would be even better, as you could then use one hand to switch between playing styles and the other to select which note to play.)
Can't you just use the DrOcto ? This already gives ability to switch between the 8 loop slots.(wether it's 8 different loops or 1 loop w/7 variations) I think making a combinator with multiple octo's is probably the answer but, you could make a combi full of Thor's too and use nurse Rex set to the loop "hit type"
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Old 2013-05-24, 02:37
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With DrOctoRex I can only fire up 8 loops (less than an octave) using E0-B0 and even if I would put a lot more of those into a combinator I don't see how one could map those so that E1-B1 would trigger the loops of the 2nd instance and so forth.

All those work-a-rounds are rather complex (using a combinator with its transpose function and a few kongs is the best I got so far). Therefore I still suggest adding this functionality (and key switching) simply to an upgraded NN-XT as it would really take it to the next level of samplers.

To illustrate this a little more here's the listing of such a folder:

01-S C 16th note - palm mute.rx2
01-S C 8th chord - palm mute.rx2
01-S C 8th note - palm mute.rx2
01-S C chord - palm mute.rx2
01-S C chord - sustained.rx2
01-S C note - palm mute.rx2
01-S C note - sustained.rx2
02-S C# 16th note - palm mute.rx2
02-S C# 8th chord - palm mute.rx2
02-S C# 8th note - palm mute.rx2
02-S C# chord - palm mute.rx2
02-S C# chord - sustained.rx2
02-S C# note - palm mute.rx2
02-S C# note - sustained.rx2
03-S D 16th note - palm mute.rx2
03-S D 8th chord - palm mute.rx2
03-S D 8th note - palm mute.rx2
03-S D chord - palm mute.rx2
03-S D chord - sustained.rx2
03-S D note - palm mute.rx2
03-S D note - sustained.rx2
04-S D# 16th note - palm mute.rx2
04-S D# 8th chord - palm mute.rx2
04-S D# 8th note - palm mute.rx2
04-S D# chord - palm mute.rx2
04-S D# chord - sustained.rx2
04-S D# note - palm mute.rx2
04-S D# note - sustained.rx2
05-S E 16th note - palm mute.rx2
05-S E 8th chord - palm mute.rx2
05-S E 8th note - palm mute.rx2
05-S E chord - palm mute.rx2
05-S E chord - sustained.rx2
05-S E note - palm mute.rx2
05-S E note - sustained.rx2
06-S F 16th note - palm mute.rx2
06-S F 8th chord - palm mute.rx2
06-S F 8th note - palm mute.rx2
06-S F chord - palm mute.rx2
06-S F chord - sustained.rx2
06-S F note - palm mute.rx2
06-S F note - sustained.rx2
07-S F# 16th note - palm mute.rx2
07-S F# 8th chord - palm mute.rx2
07-S F# 8th note - palm mute.rx2
07-S F# chord - palm mute.rx2
07-S F# chord - sustained.rx2
07-S F# note - palm mute.rx2
07-S F# note - sustained.rx2
08-S G 16th note - palm mute.rx2
08-S G 8th chord - palm mute.rx2
08-S G 8th note - palm mute.rx2
08-S G chord - palm mute.rx2
08-S G chord - sustained.rx2
08-S G note - palm mute.rx2
08-S G note - sustained.rx2
09-S G# 16th note - palm mute.rx2
09-S G# 8th chord - palm mute.rx2
09-S G# 8th note - palm mute.rx2
09-S G# chord - palm mute.rx2
09-S G# chord - sustained.rx2
09-S G# note - palm mute.rx2
09-S G# note - sustained.rx2
10-S A 16th note - palm mute.rx2
10-S A 8th chord - palm mute.rx2
10-S A 8th note - palm mute.rx2
10-S A chord - palm mute.rx2
10-S A chord - sustained.rx2
10-S A note - palm mute.rx2
10-S A note - sustained.rx2
11-S A# 16th note - palm mute.rx2
11-S A# 8th chord - palm mute.rx2
11-S A# 8th note - palm mute.rx2
11-S A# chord - palm mute.rx2
11-S A# chord - sustained.rx2
11-S A# note - palm mute.rx2
11-S A# note - sustained.rx2
12-S B 16th note - palm mute.rx2
12-S B 8th chord - palm mute.rx2
12-S B 8th note - palm mute.rx2
12-S B chord - palm mute.rx2
12-S B chord - sustained.rx2
12-S B note - palm mute.rx2
12-S B note - sustained.rx2
13-S C 16th note - palm mute.rx2
13-S C 8th chord - palm mute.rx2
13-S C 8th note - palm mute.rx2
13-S C chord - palm mute.rx2
13-S C chord - sustained.rx2
13-S C note - palm mute.rx2
13-S C note - sustained.rx2
14-S C# 16th note - palm mute.rx2
14-S C# 8th chord - palm mute.rx2
14-S C# 8th note - palm mute.rx2
14-S C# chord - palm mute.rx2
14-S C# chord - sustained.rx2
14-S C# note - palm mute.rx2
14-S C# note - sustained.rx2
15-S D 16th note - palm mute.rx2
15-S D 8th chord - palm mute.rx2
15-S D 8th note - palm mute.rx2
15-S D chord - palm mute.rx2
15-S D chord - sustained.rx2
15-S D note - palm mute.rx2
15-S D note - sustained.rx2
16-S D# 16th note - palm mute.rx2
16-S D# 8th chord - palm mute.rx2
16-S D# 8th note - palm mute.rx2
16-S D# chord - palm mute.rx2
16-S D# chord - sustained.rx2
16-S D# note - palm mute.rx2
16-S D# note - sustained.rx2
17-S E 16th note - palm mute.rx2
17-S E 8th chord - palm mute.rx2
17-S E 8th note - palm mute.rx2
17-S E chord - palm mute.rx2
17-S E chord - sustained.rx2
17-S E note - palm mute.rx2
17-S E note - sustained.rx2
18-S F 16th note - palm mute.rx2
18-S F 8th chord - palm mute.rx2
18-S F 8th note - palm mute.rx2
18-S F chord - palm mute.rx2
18-S F chord - sustained.rx2
18-S F note - palm mute.rx2
18-S F note - sustained.rx2
19-S F# 16th note - palm mute.rx2
19-S F# 8th chord - palm mute.rx2
19-S F# 8th note - palm mute.rx2
19-S F# chord - palm mute.rx2
19-S F# chord - sustained.rx2
19-S F# note - palm mute.rx2
19-S F# note - sustained.rx2
20-S G 16th note - palm mute.rx2
20-S G 8th chord - palm mute.rx2
20-S G 8th note - palm mute.rx2
20-S G chord - palm mute.rx2
20-S G chord - sustained.rx2
20-S G note - palm mute.rx2
20-S G note - sustained.rx2
21-S G# 16th note - palm mute.rx2
21-S G# 8th chord - palm mute.rx2
21-S G# 8th note - palm mute.rx2
21-S G# chord - palm mute.rx2
21-S G# chord - sustained.rx2
21-S G# note - palm mute.rx2
21-S G# note - sustained.rx2
22-S A 16th note - palm mute.rx2
22-S A 8th chord - palm mute.rx2
22-S A 8th note - palm mute.rx2
22-S A chord - palm mute.rx2
22-S A chord - sustained.rx2
22-S A note - palm mute.rx2
22-S A note - sustained.rx2
23-S A# 16th note - palm mute.rx2
23-S A# 8th chord - palm mute.rx2
23-S A# 8th note - palm mute.rx2
23-S A# chord - palm mute.rx2
23-S A# chord - sustained.rx2
23-S A# note - palm mute.rx2
23-S A# note - sustained.rx2
24-S B 16th note - palm mute.rx2
24-S B 8th chord - palm mute.rx2
24-S B 8th note - palm mute.rx2
24-S B chord - palm mute.rx2
24-S B chord - sustained.rx2
24-S B note - palm mute.rx2
24-S B note - sustained.rx2
25-S C 16th note - palm mute.rx2
25-S C 8th chord - palm mute.rx2
25-S C 8th note - palm mute.rx2
25-S C chord - palm mute.rx2
25-S C chord - sustained.rx2
25-S C note - palm mute.rx2
25-S C note - sustained.rx2

It would be great if a single NN-XT would be able to have all of those rex loops loaded at the same time using key switching to select between "16th note - palm mute", "8th chord - palm mute", "8th note - palm mute", "chord - palm mute", "chord - sustained", "note - palm mute", "note - sustained" and then having the full two octave range playable while still keeping the nice tempo sync features from the rex loops.

Last edited by djjams; 2013-05-24 at 03:26. Reason: added more details
 

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