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Old 2010-06-06, 18:23
JackG1111 JackG1111 is offline
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SP-1200 drum sound in Record/Reason

I like the 12 bit drum sound on a lot of early hip-hop records that the SP-1200 produced. I haven't found a way to get that sound in Record/Reason. Is there a way to change the bit rate to 12, or an effect that approximates it?

I messed with some of the digital scream distortion options that seemed like they were supposed to lower the bitrate or approximate that sound, but didn't get the wanted results.

I know they have sound libraries out there that supposedly match that sound, but I'd rather be able to use my own sampled drums from vinyl and process them myself, as those libraries so often don't have sounds I like, even if they did sample them through the SP.
Old 2010-06-06, 18:32
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You may want to give this a shot. It's in the free R+R FX Sound Bank:

Instrument Processors>Drum Factory
A full compliment of drum shaping tools including a Bit crusher. These “processors” are intended as a full compliment of tools to tweak the recommended source signal. Low, midrange and high EQ, compression and bit crushing all help shape drum sounds to perfectly match mood and vibe.
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Old 2010-06-06, 18:42
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Thanks! Will check it out.
Old 2010-06-07, 01:23
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Bit crushing alone won't get you that sound as there are more factors at play. I haven't used those drum processors but EQ and compression will play a big part as sounds on records had often gone through several generations of recording which really changes the sound in subtle ways.

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Old 2010-06-07, 02:27
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The sp1200 is 8bit. The mpc 60 and 60ii are 12bit.
Old 2010-06-07, 03:00
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Sp 1200 was 12 bit - SP 12 was 8.
Old 2010-06-07, 17:42
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Well, there are two options to use them popping into my head right now:

1. Simply record the sound the SP-1200 produces (via some DAW like Logic, Cubase etc.) and use it in the sampler, Redrum etc.

2. There are a lot of LoFi-plugins for all systems. Even without them you should be able to export the 16-bit or whatsnot-bit-rates with a sequencer as above easily with lower sample rates to values lower than 44.1 kHz. Just google for "change sample rate" and millions of suggestions should pop up.

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Old 2010-06-07, 18:08
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I know you mention you dont want libraries but it think you should seriously check this out from goldbaby.

The price for the wav pack is not bad. Trust me its quality.
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