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Old 2011-11-04, 08:22
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Vocal mix

I posted this in the User Forum but got no response so I'm reposting.

I'm recording vocals for the first time in a while and now that I've got Balance as my only I/O I'm struggling to see how to create a cue or vocal mix for use during my vocal recordings.
If I just turn down the Main Out Level of Balance and turn up the Headphones Level, because of the bleed through, I can hear the music that I'm monitoring in my headphones very clearly when I playback my vocal take.
I could obviously turn everything down while I record my vocals and then backup again but that's just silly.
With Balance having only 2 outputs, is there a way to create a cue mix or vocal monitor mix so that when I record I can have my vocal higher than the other tracks?

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Old 2011-11-04, 18:49
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I posted this in the User Forum but got no response so I'm reposting.

I'm recording vocals for the first time in a while and now that I've got Balance as my only I/O I'm struggling to see how to create a cue or vocal mix for use during my vocal recordings.
If I just turn down the Main Out Level of Balance and turn up the Headphones Level, because of the bleed through, I can hear the music that I'm monitoring in my headphones very clearly when I playback my vocal take.
I could obviously turn everything down while I record my vocals and then backup again but that's just silly.
With Balance having only 2 outputs, is there a way to create a cue mix or vocal monitor mix so that when I record I can have my vocal higher than the other tracks?

N03L
Sorry I missed this the first time around…

I'm not sure how you're hearing bleed, unless you have your phones cranked up VERY loud, and you are singing VERY soft.

What vocal mic are you using?

You have a few options here. One is to use "direct monitoring" on the balance to hear your vocals without latency. To get the track softer than the vocal, just turn down the master fader, or hit the "DIM -20 dB" button.

If you prefer to monitor your vocals through the SSL mixer, you'll have to do what every engineer does when recording vocals - turn UP the vocal track for the singer.

A third option is to create a "more me" mix for your vocals. This is a little more complex but can be done. The quick way to do this is to use an FX bus - simply patch the output of a send (I would suggest send #8) right back to it's FX input. In the mixer, on the vocal channel, turn on send 8 and crank the level all the way up. This gives you 10 dB more level on the vocal without changing anything else - if that's too loud, bring the send back to where you like it. Then when you play the vocal back, just turn off the send.

None of these will possibly affect the bleed you're describing, so maybe there's an issue with your setup that's causing this. Let me know how it works out. :-)
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